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Old Mar 22, 2006 | 10:09 AM
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That makes sense. Good work guys, and please pass along my respects to Lachlan Riddel the next time you speak with him.

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Old Mar 22, 2006 | 10:12 AM
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any features it has that no one has mentioned?
Old Mar 22, 2006 | 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by robertrinaustin
Not much thought behind that post. If it is what it apears to be and it actually works well, it will be revolutionary and I would bet just about every tuner on this forum will use it and I'm not a Vishnu customer.
Are you saying what Shiv said about David and Al using his product might be true?

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Old Mar 22, 2006 | 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Trey@COBB
That makes sense. Good work guys, and please pass along my respects to Lachlan Riddel the next time you speak with him.

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If only your serve was as good as your backhand ...
Old Mar 22, 2006 | 10:46 AM
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This is AWESOME, Good Job..


Cant wait to hear more about it.. now thats what Im talking about.. and for the other comments in reference to others.. lets not start this again..

hopefully you can dyno that in a flash..

props to Vishnu !!!!
Old Mar 22, 2006 | 10:51 AM
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David and Dustin, tell Shiv good work.

One note of importance I'd really like you to read, though:

My dislike of the Cobb AP is that you have to go to a "Protuner" to be able to really manipulate the maps. I have a local friend with the Cobb Street Tuner, and it has so little flexability on the dyno. Compared to an XEDE or even a UTEC, I had almost no freedom to make *compelling local changes throughout the rev range. As the person tuning, I want _total_ control of the ECU like the XEDE and Protuner software has.

If someone is willing to pay the money for a device like this, they should have the complete ability to do whatever they want to manipulate fueling, boost, and timing (within what parameters the stock ECU can handle, of course). With the Street Tuner, a tuner is very limited. To add insult to injury, the cost to become a Protuner is pretty substantial.

The beauty of Vishnu to me is that you have always given the end user the flexibility to tune his car throughout any of those above parameters he/she wishes. If this Xflasher has that ability (including injector scaling), it will have a substantial leg up on the competition. The ability to have multiple flash maps and the possibility to fully have access to the settings yourself would open a whole new door for reflash users.

I can tell you without asking that Dyno4mance (and company) will be very excited about this product!

The big question is this: Will it be Subaru compatible? That would absolutely rule.
Old Mar 22, 2006 | 10:52 AM
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If only your serve was as good as your backhand ...
No shat.
Old Mar 22, 2006 | 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Noize
The big question is this: Will it be Subaru compatible? That would absolutely rule.



Old Mar 22, 2006 | 12:12 PM
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Perhaps you missed the point earlier this week; we are done with this crap. Account disabled........ permanently.

Speedlimit...
Speedlimit, please check your PM ...

I know cij911 and I know that his post was made in jest to prod the Vishnu folks for more info on the exciting new product!

I don't think he's familiar with all the drama that's occurred here recently as he's not on here all that frequently.

I personally apologize on his behalf for his poorly worded post, but I assure you he was just interested in more information on the product as is evidenced by his first post where he expresses interest in 'Shiv's plan for the IX.'

Anyway, sorry for the OT, just wanted to throw that character reference in there and apologize for my bud. (by the way, he doesn't even know he's banned yet ... I'm about to call him up and laugh at him really hard)

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Old Mar 22, 2006 | 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Noize
David and Dustin, tell Shiv good work.

One note of importance I'd really like you to read, though:

My dislike of the Cobb AP is that you have to go to a "Protuner" to be able to really manipulate the maps. I have a local friend with the Cobb Street Tuner, and it has so little flexability on the dyno. Compared to an XEDE or even a UTEC, I had almost no freedom to make *compelling local changes throughout the rev range. As the person tuning, I want _total_ control of the ECU like the XEDE and Protuner software has.

Then the XEDE is for you

If someone is willing to pay the money for a device like this, they should have the complete ability to do whatever they want to manipulate fueling, boost, and timing (within what parameters the stock ECU can handle, of course). With the Street Tuner, a tuner is very limited. To add insult to injury, the cost to become a Protuner is pretty substantial.

The beauty of Vishnu to me is that you have always given the end user the flexibility to tune his car throughout any of those above parameters he/she wishes. If this Xflasher has that ability (including injector scaling), it will have a substantial leg up on the competition. The ability to have multiple flash maps and the possibility to fully have access to the settings yourself would open a whole new door for reflash users.

I can tell you without asking that Dyno4mance (and company) will be very excited about this product!

The big question is this: Will it be Subaru compatible? That would absolutely rule.

They (vishnu) probably won't make it so you can change parameters because thats what the XEDE does. This XFlasher will probably be 90-100% exactly like a COBB AP ie ability to change maps/flashes, go back to stock, etc. but probably no more.

For Xede users, we can probably use this to flash our ECU with the Xede flash to get rid of fuel cut and scale injectors.

For Xede users that don't really tune, this is gonna be a great option.

For Xflash users, they won't have to send their ECU to get flashed, will be able to go back to stock without having to send their ECU in, change maps when getting more mods, etc. Great if you don't like sending you ECU in all the time and if you like a little bit more control, but not as much control as the Xede give you.

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Old Mar 22, 2006 | 12:22 PM
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This is excellent, what I have been asking for/waiting for...just like I had for my 03 Cobra (predator/sct). If it can load enough maps to cover the various logical upgrades as well as turning off the 02 and raising the rev limit I'm in heaven
Old Mar 22, 2006 | 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by ez76
If only your serve was as good as your backhand ...
boy what a class act at Cobb huh!?! Like Shiv has his little secret working with Lachlan!?! Shiv talks about their collaborations all the time
Old Mar 22, 2006 | 02:48 PM
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does cobb even make parts for the evo?
Old Mar 22, 2006 | 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Evo_Kid
They (vishnu) probably won't make it so you can change parameters because thats what the XEDE does. This XFlasher will probably be 90-100% exactly like a COBB AP ie ability to change maps/flashes, go back to stock, etc. but probably no more.

For Xede users, we can probably use this to flash our ECU with the Xede flash to get rid of fuel cut and scale injectors.

For Xede users that don't really tune, this is gonna be a great option.

For Xflash users, they won't have to send their ECU to get flashed, will be able to go back to stock without having to send their ECU in, change maps when getting more mods, etc. Great if you don't like sending you ECU in all the time and if you like a little bit more control, but not as much control as the Xede give you.
I think that sums it up pretty well. But we're still early enough in the development process that we can make changes in functionality without too much extra work. But you are 100% correct. This is not a substitution for the XEDE which will always be our flagship product when it comes to engine control systems. With SMART and the new Conditional Features, it will do things that the factory ECU will not be able to do. Regardless on how it is reflashed. Apart from that, we are optimistic with regards to how the EVO market will receive the Xflasher. I think that we've addressed some of the shortcomings seen with other reflashing systems. But that's just me. We're interested in what you guys think of it when it hits the streets.
Old Mar 22, 2006 | 03:51 PM
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If possible, I'd love to see a tuner come out for this later.
Of course we'd expect to pay more for it, but to be able to tune customers cars would be awesome.



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