Ive asked several friends this question and thought Id throw it up in here for some more input.

Im thinking hard about a 2.3 stroker with maybe a GT3037 turbo (full race manifold) and what I want to know is can the Xede effectively handle this setup? A lot of the stroker+big turbo guys are going stand alone (AEM, Autronic, etc) but I'd rather stay with my Xede...if it can do the job.

Right now I have the stock 9.8 16G with the Vishnu v390 setup with 280 cams.

Obviously the question will be asked "What will I be using the car for" well definitely not drag racing-although I might take it once or twice to see what it will do. Mainly it will be for high speed auto X and road courses (not to mention lots of twisty back roads)

basically, I want tons of power with super quick spool up. (who doesn't) and I dont necessarily want to rev the engine to eleventy-thousand RPMs

Discuss...

 

I guess the real question is can the MAF handle the stroker and big turbo...and if not, can the Xede handle/control speed density of blow through maf or whatever...Im getting outside my area of expertise here.

 

I run a turbo that is similar to a GT35R and have no porblems controlling it w/ the XEDE. I even did a vacuum test to see if the MAF was really restrictive and at 30+psi it didn't even register a vacuum reading.

 

The XEDE isn't the issue in a high power setup, but scaling for extremely large injectors can be eventually.
That said, the stock ECU can be reflashed to handle a stroker and a 30R with ease. IIRC, Smoggy is doing it with a 35R, but I'm on the other side of the country and haven't talked to him in awhile.

A stroker might be a little big for a 30R, and better matched to a 35R. If you're just going to stick with a 3037, a 2.0 will be more than sufficient.

 

Paul and I were discussing this earlier today. He seems to believe that a 3037 on a stroker would spool up ~3200rpms and still be large enough for the big power up top.

 

That's good to know...

 

The Xede is plenty robust. But don't get a stroker motor if nothing is wrong with your current motor. Get a good turbo kit and you are set for the time being.

 

May I ask why? Seems that the extra TQ and quick spoolup would be worth it. (kinda playing Devils Advocate here...)

 

I think what Smoggie is saying is that your car could be down longer than you think, so if the shortblock is fine don't mess with it. I think he's happy with his stroker set-up.

 

Not so much "down time" per se but I'd strongly recommend putting a list together that honestly outlines the money you will be dropping and see if it is REALLY worth it. Do the stroker last. You can keep your car running and start building everything BUT the bottom end.

 

Yeah, that makes sense. I just dont want the lag from a big turbo on a 2.0.

Honestly, there are too many options and Im lost.

 

Yes, I would strongly agree with this. Build up your car one step at a time. Going the turbo kit + built engine (2.0 or 2.3) is going to co$$$$$$$t. Make sure you understand all of the potential expenses involved ... including what might happen if your engine builder doesn't quite get it right.

Also make sure you decide on what application you will be building up your car for (e.g. street car, 1/4 mile racer, road racer). It may lead you down a different path than you think.

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+1

The stock motor is plenty strong to handle the 3037/35r. You will get is a bit more lag w/ the stocker but you will save yourself a lot of headache/downtime and $$.

My .02

 

Read between the lines is all I can say. The 30R on a stock 2.0 is a blast and probably lil more reliable than the alternative in many cases. The built motor game is a crap-shoot and many of the failures or problems go unreported do to alliances and such. That is all!

 

Yeah, Ron's right. When you pull the motor, a ton of things can go wrong which is why you see such resistance to messing with the block or even taking off a head.

Yes the xede can handle the stroker, but you will have to find a tuner to tune and and Xede tuners are not huge fans of strokers hence that's why IMO you see many strokers on the AEM.

Are the strokers fun? If you can dial one in and have the patience and the money to get it right, it's great. A 2.4 will spool a 30R at 1500 rpm (1 psi) in 5th gear. Full spool is in the low 3's and you feel the "turbo kick" in the high 3's. Torque and HP are close to the same in the high 300's on pump gas on a Dyno Jet.

Off the line the 30R is blazingly quick with much less lag compared to a 2.0. Fast enough to pull a v8 from a slip at 4000 rpm. It starts to run out of steam in the high 6000's unless you've got good cams and headwork. Intake manifolds help with the top end too.