Shiv, Any Plans for the MS 3?
Originally Posted by nj1266
Some of us do not give a rat's *** about drag racing. I have yet to drag race. I have only attended one drag racing event in my lifetime. I do not think Shiv cares about drag racing either.
The MS3 will suck at the drag strip since its ECU limits the power in 1 and 2 gears to reduce wheelspin. The MS3 is good for the road course where 1st and 2nd gears are not such a factor.
The MS3 will suck at the drag strip since its ECU limits the power in 1 and 2 gears to reduce wheelspin. The MS3 is good for the road course where 1st and 2nd gears are not such a factor.
It doesn't really matter though, I mean I do honestly think Shiv is just an awesome tuner and he could probably tune a Geo Metro and make power. I'm sure one day some MS3 owner will recieve his tune and run some awesome numbers and put any of my skeptism to rest
), it's the guy doing the tuning. Enough with this love fest, I feel really gay.
shiv how about the mazdaspeed 6? Theres a lot of us that need tuning any plans for that? If you can get 50whp off the ms3 im sure you can get similar on the ms6 and plus the AWD will make it more of a track happy car
Last edited by EvoTriz; Dec 5, 2006 at 06:20 PM.
Originally Posted by 3000ways
50whp from just an Xede Tune, I mean Shiv I consider you one of the best tuners out there, but I would really like to start seeing some trap speeds from some of these new cars that you have been tuning, such as the 335i and MS3. Maybe I'll meet a couple on the streets, already ran into a modded 335i and I held him off with my lowly 309whp EVO IX.
That should be good for around 110mph trap speeds; the BMW probably would need about 340whp to match the trap speed. I'd guess the 290whp of the MS3 would put it around 107mph.... damn, I need to mod! fast! One of my friends has a MS3 and it's pretty damn nice.
Originally Posted by nj1266
The MS3 will suck at the drag strip since its ECU limits the power in 1 and 2 gears to reduce wheelspin. The MS3 is good for the road course where 1st and 2nd gears are not such a factor.
Yeah has anybody seen the turbo on the MS3 and MS6, I mean it is pretty freakin' tiny, and it is pretty much maxed out from the factory. I mean I'm not just speaking out of my *** when I say stuff, seriously the MS3 and MS6 are virtually similiar when it comes to powertrains, and seriously many MS6 owners agree that 290-300whp is about the max range of when it comes to the power being maxed out on the stock turbo, and this is with bolt ons and tuning. But all a sudden a MS3 puts out this power with nothing other than a ECU upgrade. With bolt ons is this MS3 going to see 330whp, that is EVO IX range, and there absolutely is no comparison between the turbo in the EVO IX and MS3. I mean call me a skeptic all you want, but I have reasons for not believing everything I read. I mean it's the same thing with the EVO and STI, there are many reasons for the power differences between the two with bolt ons, but a major reason, is the stock EVO turbo in comparison to the STI turbo, I mean this is sh*t we all know. I know that with a couple of bolt ons and 23PSI my stock turbo IX is not going to make 400whp, I don't give a f*ck what the dyno says. I know my stock turbo will never see 500whp, the turbo has its limits.
Eh, dyno numbers are to be taken with a grain of salt when you're coming different cars, different dynos, different days.
BUT, going from 240whp to 290whp, same car, same dyno, same day, that's pretty damn good in my book for just a tune. I'll take 20%+ more power anyday!
BUT, going from 240whp to 290whp, same car, same dyno, same day, that's pretty damn good in my book for just a tune. I'll take 20%+ more power anyday!
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