Has Vishnu Performance tuned any HKS 274 int / 264 exh cars?
Aug 26, 2004, 06:00 PM
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Is there any differnece with regards to spirited driving, 4k mid throttle to full throttle applications?
AS you know, there is a lot of crap posted on these boards, this 272in/264ex combo "is supposed to net a greater mid range" or so people have said? In your opinion, Is this true or not when comparing your current set-up to 264/264 or 264/272 cam combo's?
Thanks again for this awesome info.
AS you know, there is a lot of crap posted on these boards, this 272in/264ex combo "is supposed to net a greater mid range" or so people have said? In your opinion, Is this true or not when comparing your current set-up to 264/264 or 264/272 cam combo's?
Thanks again for this awesome info.
Aug 26, 2004, 06:31 PM
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O.k., I did the 272's last week and I set the cam gears to -3/-3. What will happen when I change it to another setting like -4/-1, will I loose power, gain power, or is it bad play around with the settings.
Aug 26, 2004, 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by lambtron@vishnu
So we just did a few runs on the dyno with my car...
272 in 264 ex
Baseline Stage 1+ map (XFlash)
-Power output was 271 (Cold)
-Consistently 263-265 on the next few runs
-No tuning was done, I'm still running the baseline stage 1+ map
Conclusion: idles like stock, makes same power as the other hks cam setups.
272 in 264 ex
Baseline Stage 1+ map (XFlash)
-Power output was 271 (Cold)
-Consistently 263-265 on the next few runs
-No tuning was done, I'm still running the baseline stage 1+ map
Conclusion: idles like stock, makes same power as the other hks cam setups.
That's pretty much what i got...but I have the 264in/272ex on 91oct custom tuned xflash. I suspect that the extra duration on 272 only makes small hi rpm gains on the stock turbo.
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Aug 26, 2004, 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by WOT
Is there any differnece with regards to spirited driving, 4k mid throttle to full throttle applications?
AS you know, there is a lot of crap posted on these boards, this 272in/264ex combo "is supposed to net a greater mid range" or so people have said? In your opinion, Is this true or not when comparing your current set-up to 264/264 or 264/272 cam combo's?
Thanks again for this awesome info.
AS you know, there is a lot of crap posted on these boards, this 272in/264ex combo "is supposed to net a greater mid range" or so people have said? In your opinion, Is this true or not when comparing your current set-up to 264/264 or 264/272 cam combo's?
Thanks again for this awesome info.
Then there are also the ones like Chris who can't get away from their muscle car days and need that lumpier, more aggressive idle to satisfy their needs, haha.
Aug 27, 2004, 10:15 AM
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Time for you guys to get some real cams, get some Pipers, Jun & Tomei. Stop messing around with these weak HKS cams. 
Brain, you had better make sure you list your intake temperature, don't want to start another riot!
Brain, you had better make sure you list your intake temperature, don't want to start another riot!
Aug 27, 2004, 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Buzzard
Time for you guys to get some real cams, get some Pipers, Jun & Tomei. Stop messing around with these weak HKS cams.
Brain, you had better make sure you list your intake temperature, don't want to start another riot!
Brain, you had better make sure you list your intake temperature, don't want to start another riot!
I've seen a 1+ tomei cam car, and I was not impressed, HKS still did way better. Haven't seein jun or piper yet though. One of our local fellas picked up some pipers and he'll be in here in the near future to have those installed, so I guess we'll see then
Aug 28, 2004, 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by lambtron@vishnu
EXCUSE ME?! My name is BRIAN. I ought to have you banned! I've seen a 1+ tomei cam car, and I was not impressed, HKS still did way better. Haven't seein jun or piper yet though. One of our local fellas picked up some pipers and he'll be in here in the near future to have those installed, so I guess we'll see then
I've seen a 1+ tomei cam car, and I was not impressed, HKS still did way better. Haven't seein jun or piper yet though. One of our local fellas picked up some pipers and he'll be in here in the near future to have those installed, so I guess we'll see then
Aug 30, 2004, 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by lambtron@vishnu
I get a lot of customers calling me about cams, worrying about idling issues, so I think I've found the setup I'll reccommend for them
So to recap & please correct me if i am wrong....being on evom, that wont be a problem!!
264 In / 272 Ex vs 272 In / Ex 264 generate similar power curves & have similar drivability characteristics.
272 In / 264 Ex has the smoothest idle between the 2 combos.
could you post your dyno sheet?
did you do any tuning to cater to either set-up? cam timing, ig, etc?
Aug 30, 2004, 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Noize
As I've been asked to not respond to you in anger, I'll show you some data to look at.
264/272 custom tuned: http://www.dyno4mance.com/tuning/you..._Pages/111.php
272/272 custom tuned on the exact same day: http://www.dyno4mance.com/tuning/you..._Pages/104.php
These cars have identical mods except for the 272 intake cam on the bottom car. Interesting that it doesn't follow the standard rules, huh? The AMS test you provided is a neat tool to look at, but hardly unilateral proof.
Oh, and for fun, here's a Cobra for you on the same type of dyno...
http://www.ktrperformance.com/servic..._SVT_coupe.htm
This car has a chip and a cat-back only. These mods cost this guy a whooping $1100.
IMO, an actual data pool (like our Spring dyno day highlighted above) outstrips only gleaning information from the internet. Keep reading up on Evos and good luck with your mod path.
264/272 custom tuned: http://www.dyno4mance.com/tuning/you..._Pages/111.php
272/272 custom tuned on the exact same day: http://www.dyno4mance.com/tuning/you..._Pages/104.php
These cars have identical mods except for the 272 intake cam on the bottom car. Interesting that it doesn't follow the standard rules, huh? The AMS test you provided is a neat tool to look at, but hardly unilateral proof.
Oh, and for fun, here's a Cobra for you on the same type of dyno...
http://www.ktrperformance.com/servic..._SVT_coupe.htm
This car has a chip and a cat-back only. These mods cost this guy a whooping $1100.
IMO, an actual data pool (like our Spring dyno day highlighted above) outstrips only gleaning information from the internet. Keep reading up on Evos and good luck with your mod path.
From your dyno datasheet, it seems that the 264i/272e is a better setup than the 272/272...
ANy cam gears setting involved?
Aug 30, 2004, 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by WOT
Thanks for the write-up!
So to recap & please correct me if i am wrong....being on evom, that wont be a problem!!
264 In / 272 Ex vs 272 In / Ex 264 generate similar power curves & have similar drivability characteristics.
272 In / 264 Ex has the smoothest idle between the 2 combos.
could you post your dyno sheet?
did you do any tuning to cater to either set-up? cam timing, ig, etc?
So to recap & please correct me if i am wrong....being on evom, that wont be a problem!!
264 In / 272 Ex vs 272 In / Ex 264 generate similar power curves & have similar drivability characteristics.
272 In / 264 Ex has the smoothest idle between the 2 combos.
could you post your dyno sheet?
did you do any tuning to cater to either set-up? cam timing, ig, etc?
No tuning was done. All I did was install the cams, set the gears to -2/-2, shiv flashed my car with the baseline 1+ map and that's that
Aug 30, 2004, 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by lambtron@vishnu
No tuning was done. All I did was install the cams, set the gears to -2/-2, shiv flashed my car with the baseline 1+ map and that's that
Shoemaker's children.......
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Originally Posted by lambtron@vishnu
No tuning was done. All I did was install the cams, set the gears to -2/-2, shiv flashed my car with the baseline 1+ map and that's that
