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Old Nov 25, 2006 | 08:00 PM
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what happened to the commander kit with PDA readout of flowrates??
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Old Nov 25, 2006 | 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by LimPShoT
what happened to the commander kit with PDA readout of flowrates??
It is here but it cost $999(scroll down on the page) :

http://www.coolingmist.com/pagedispl...key=controller


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Old Nov 25, 2006 | 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by fromWRXtoEVO
Importimage,

First let me say thanks for offering a interesting product. Now and with all my respect and without malicious intentions let me at least address a few interesting points.

We are the manufacturer, so let me answer these questions.

What makes this controller the most advance?
We make the claim that this is the most advanced progressive controller on the market. At this time we have the only fully programmable progressive controller. The user can change the curve, datalog, change the min, max. They can even change the knobs on the controller to work in a different range. In addition to all of this, they can run the system in 2D mode (both 0-5V input and boost source).

Without dis-respect to any other progressive manufacturer out there, there are no others with these features. If we are wrong, please correct us.


What makes this kit the world easiest to install?

I am not trying to bring your product down but per say Buschur Racing launched a full truly bolt-on specific Evo kit. Your kit is more like generic, it is compact and innovative but by no means specific to the Evo.
This is not specific to the evo. Correct. I believe we should have said easiest to install UNIVERSAL kit. Remember, there is nothing that needs to be specific to the evo. Our controller is fully tune-able, so you will dial in the exact flow you need.



I also see that having the controller fitted to the tank gives zero practical information while you are driving, in other words, ergonomically speaking is completly impractical (the driver has no direct visual contact with the controller)
Alot of customers tune the system and dont need to turn the knobs ever again. Those that want to change the knobs or want to view the LED would either need to get our commander option or not mount the controller to the tank.

Another issue is that you claimed this kit to be the worlds easiest kit to install, reality shows otherwise:

1) You have to run vacuum/boost lines to the controller
You have to do that will all controllers. Either a vacuum line or a MAF.


2) You have to run long power lines to accomodate the power to the fuse box.
Agreed, again you have to run power to any controller. 16 gauge wire works fine.


Depending on where this kit is to be installed it would determine how simple of complex the install is, either way in my opinion this kit is not easier than others. Sounds more like a sales strategy to me.
With most kits on the market you need to mount the Controller, Pump, Tank and then you have to wire all of those. Our product eliminates that. Some kits on the market have the pump in the factory tank, but that requires you to remove the factory tank and then install the replacement tank. Then you have to mount the controller.

Its probably a matter of how you look at it.



With that said I still think you guys have a interesting product.

Carlos
That is certainly appreciated. We are not knocking any other product and we are not claiming EVO specific. We are claiming easy to install.

Thanks for your questions.
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Old Nov 25, 2006 | 08:17 PM
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Sir,


Thank you soo much for your quick response and for being so nice and respectful to answer my questions inteligently. Other vendors might have thought that I was trashing them(not the case).

Don't ever think because I challenged you it means I don't like your products. I like your products indeed and I might be buying one kit for my current project car, definetely your product potentially falls in my plans.

Thanks again

Carlos

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Old Nov 25, 2006 | 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by fromWRXtoEVO
Sir,


Thank you soo much for your quick response and for being so nice and respectful to answer my questions inteligently. Other vendors might have thought that I was trashing them(not the case).

Don't ever think because I challenged you it means I don't like your products. I like your products indeed and I might be buying one kit for my current project car.

Thanks again

Carlos
Carlos,

I have learned that things dont always come across they way you intend and you dont always read them they way they are meant. I am guilty of both those more than most.

I have no problems answering customer questions when they arise. Everyone has a different idea of what they want in a kit, we try to answer most of those with our various products.

thanks again.
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Old Nov 28, 2006 | 06:00 PM
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I like the kit are u guys goign to run any type of a deal on them?
Do the tank include a mounting strap?
Whats the advantage of the check valve?
i see the flow sensor can be added as well
What is the water solenoid for?
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Old Nov 28, 2006 | 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by BoostWhore
I like the kit are u guys goign to run any type of a deal on them?
Import image has them on sale at http://importimageonline.com/product...78a42db148fba6. We inquired about advertising on this forum and may sign up as well. In the mean time we are here to support them.


Do the tank include a mounting strap?
The tank does not include straps. Some like aluminum straps, other want basic ones. You can pick up some basic straps at the auto parts store



Whats the advantage of the check valve?
The checkvalve is simple, fast acting and very reliable. I replaces a solenoid and prevents water from being sucked in the engine during vacuum.


i see the flow sensor can be added as well

What is the water solenoid for?


This kit does not come with a solenoid, it gets a checkvalve instead. Let us know if you have more questions.
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Old Nov 28, 2006 | 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by fromWRXtoEVO
It is here but it cost $999(scroll down on the page) :

http://www.coolingmist.com/pagedispl...key=controller


Carlos
thats the kit i got. not installed yet. wondering what it has as fail safe as i got it thinking it was the best. maby im just miss reading something that is throughing me off
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Old Nov 28, 2006 | 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by evodan2004
thats the kit i got. not installed yet. wondering what it has as fail safe as i got it thinking it was the best. maby im just miss reading something that is throughing me off
That kit is our top of the line kit. The difference between the trunk mount kit in this thread and that kit are the following:

1) Pocket PC
2) Pocket PC software
3) AC charger, DC Charger
4) dash/vent charger
5) Intake temperature sender
6) Commander Software

As said earlier, everyone has an idea of what a failsafe is. That kit gives you alot of visual clues as to what is g oing on as well as the ability to datalog your pump duty cycle, boost, IAT (or EGT depending on model), etc.

I will say that is not the cheapest kit in the world, but if you want to price what an IPAQ RX 1955 retails for you will see why the cost on the kit.

When Vari-Safe is released it will connect to your controller and be-able to establish syncronous and asyncronous communiction. We promise to release a failsafe like no other and it will be compatible with all vari-cool units.

You are more than welcome to call us during business ours at our toll free # if you have specific questions about our products.
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Old Nov 28, 2006 | 06:22 PM
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In the directions with the kit it says to install that check valve closest to the spray nozzle. Why is the check valve installe straight off the pump vs. the nozzle?
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Old Nov 28, 2006 | 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by DRFTKNGG
In the directions with the kit it says to install that check valve closest to the spray nozzle. Why is the check valve installe straight off the pump vs. the nozzle?
You can install the checkvalve anywhere you want. We have tested internally and found both locations to work great. The instructions you are reading are for the Vari-cool stage II kit, this is a totally different kit. In that stage II KIt (even if you upgrade to the 1.5 gallon tank) You cant install it at the tank will have to install closer to the injector. The installation of the checkvalve in the tank makes install much easier, which is the point of this kit.

Thanks!
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Old Nov 28, 2006 | 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by coolingmist
That kit is our top of the line kit. The difference between the trunk mount kit in this thread and that kit are the following:

1) Pocket PC
2) Pocket PC software
3) AC charger, DC Charger
4) dash/vent charger
5) Intake temperature sender
6) Commander Software

As said earlier, everyone has an idea of what a failsafe is. That kit gives you alot of visual clues as to what is g oing on as well as the ability to datalog your pump duty cycle, boost, IAT (or EGT depending on model), etc.

I will say that is not the cheapest kit in the world, but if you want to price what an IPAQ RX 1955 retails for you will see why the cost on the kit.

When Vari-Safe is released it will connect to your controller and be-able to establish syncronous and asyncronous communiction. We promise to release a failsafe like no other and it will be compatible with all vari-cool units.

You are more than welcome to call us during business ours at our toll free # if you have specific questions about our products.
yea my kit has all that stuff. i wanted to play with the ipac but it was dead. needs to be charged. lol. il try to call you. number???
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Old Nov 28, 2006 | 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by evodan2004
yea my kit has all that stuff. i wanted to play with the ipac but it was dead. needs to be charged. lol. il try to call you. number???
888-MORE HPW. Call tomorrow after 10 AM ET. make sure you download our latest ipaq software from our website under the commander software link. Its been updated with a new version.

Thanks.
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Old Nov 28, 2006 | 06:29 PM
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The checkvalve is simple, fast acting and very reliable. I replaces a solenoid and prevents water from being sucked in the engine during vacuum.
Personally I do not see the need for this. It is a much bigger problem to have boost backflow the fluid to the pump. A checkvalve that only allows one way flow to the nozzle should be what is included. Detonation can occur in the time it takes for the fuel to purge the air and run back to the injector.
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Old Nov 28, 2006 | 06:31 PM
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Thank you for endearing response, its appreciated.


Originally Posted by TTP Engineering
Personally I do not see the need for this. It is a much bigger problem to have boost backflow the fluid to the pump. A checkvalve that only allows one way flow to the nozzle should be what is included. Detonation can occur in the time it takes for the fuel to purge the air and run back to the injector.
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