Has everyone seen the new coolingmist kit yet?
Originally Posted by coolingmist
As said earlier, everyone has an idea of what a failsafe is. That kit gives you alot of visual clues as to what is g oing on as well as the ability to datalog your pump duty cycle, boost, IAT (or EGT depending on model), etc.
When Vari-Safe is released it will connect to your controller and be-able to establish syncronous and asyncronous communiction. We promise to release a failsafe like no other and it will be compatible with all vari-cool units.
The way the TTP meth injection kits are setup cut boost to 14psi if EGT is too high, or if AFR> 12.00(for example) AND TPS> 70% AND IF BOOST> 22.5psi.
We have deliberately run out of meth, driven around at WOT while logging EVOSCAN and could not get the car to knock with our safeguard system.
This is the most bulletproof system available to protect your motor and can be run on stock or aftermarket ECU.
Originally Posted by TTP Engineering
You would be hard pressed to beat the ZEITRONIX / Meth injection combination safegaurd that covers: HIGH EGT, LOW TO OUT OF METH, PROGRAMMABLE AFR+TPS%+BOOST COMBINATION.
The way the TTP meth injection kits are setup cut boost to 14psi if EGT is too high, or if AFR> 12.00(for example) AND TPS> 70% AND IF BOOST> 22.5psi.
We have deliberately run out of meth, driven around at WOT while logging EVOSCAN and could not get the car to knock with our safeguard system.
This is the most bulletproof system available to protect your motor and can be run on stock or aftermarket ECU.
The way the TTP meth injection kits are setup cut boost to 14psi if EGT is too high, or if AFR> 12.00(for example) AND TPS> 70% AND IF BOOST> 22.5psi.
We have deliberately run out of meth, driven around at WOT while logging EVOSCAN and could not get the car to knock with our safeguard system.
This is the most bulletproof system available to protect your motor and can be run on stock or aftermarket ECU.
In the meantime, how bout cutting me some slack and advertise your products on your own time?
Originally Posted by coolingmist
Ok, thats fantastic. Here is the deal, this is our thread about our product. I dont go into your threads. You dont even know what our device is going to do. As soon as we release that info, I'll be glad to quote your post just for fun.
In the meantime, how bout cutting me some slack and advertise your products on your own time?
In the meantime, how bout cutting me some slack and advertise your products on your own time?
Last edited by TTP Engineering; Nov 28, 2006 at 06:46 PM.
Originally Posted by TTP Engineering
How bout you leave the moderation to the moderators. You are not a vendor and this is in Water/Alcohol injection section and is NOT a vendor FS thread for Import Image.
How bout this, your safeguard rocks the boat! Now lets move on to relevant questions.
Originally Posted by coolingmist
Ok, thats fantastic. Here is the deal, this is our thread about our product. I dont go into your threads. You dont even know what our device is going to do. As soon as we release that info, I'll be glad to quote your post just for fun.
To reiterate, this is the water injection section, designed as a place for technical discussions about waterinjection systems and safeguards.
If you would like a place to sell coolingmist products free from vendor to vendor product discussions and questions, I would contact speedlimit so he can get you vendorship signup info.
Originally Posted by TTP Engineering
I have an idea, lets have a TECHNICAL discussion about your safeguard, what it covers, what it will do and how it works?
To reiterate, this is the water injection section, designed as a place for technical discussions about waterinjection systems and safeguards.
If you would like a place to sell coolingmist products free from vendor to vendor product discussions and questions, I would contact speedlimit so he can get you vendorship signup info.
To reiterate, this is the water injection section, designed as a place for technical discussions about waterinjection systems and safeguards.
If you would like a place to sell coolingmist products free from vendor to vendor product discussions and questions, I would contact speedlimit so he can get you vendorship signup info.
When we are ready to disclose that we will. If you want a technical discussion about safeguards, why not post one now? I had a really good time watching you and richard with your flame wars, It was quite entertaining.
I will not join in until our product is ready. Dont ask us anything about our safeguard or how it works, we will not disclose anything other than what is on our website. You should not be worried, no safeguard could ever do what yours does...or even possibly more.
Originally Posted by coolingmist
When we are ready to disclose that we will. If you want a technical discussion about safeguards, why not post one now? I had a really good time watching you and richard with your flame wars, It was quite entertaining.
I will not join in until our product is ready. Dont ask us anything about our safeguard or how it works, we will not disclose anything other than what is on our website. You should not be worried, no safeguard could ever do what yours does...or even possibly more.
I will not join in until our product is ready. Dont ask us anything about our safeguard or how it works, we will not disclose anything other than what is on our website. You should not be worried, no safeguard could ever do what yours does...or even possibly more.
I am not concerned about this "safeguard" as it is evident there is nothing to discuss. It doesn't exist yet. I like many other members in this technical forum were merely interested in this product and how it worked. If the product was not ready to discuss, it should not have been brought up by YOU.
Since this is a technical forum and not a FS ad, more than one person brought up the subject of the checkvalve. Where I also posted below.
Originally Posted by TTP-Engineering
Personally I do not see the need for this. It is a much bigger problem to have boost backflow the fluid to the pump. A checkvalve that only allows one way flow to the nozzle should be what is included. Detonation can occur in the time it takes for the fuel to purge the air and run back to the injector.
Originally Posted by Coolingmist
Thank you for endearing response, its appreciated.
Unfortunately it shows members that this thread is not about a technical discussion on water injection, but an ad to sell product.
Who said he does not have a great product?
I am not going to play the debate game with you. Any customers that want to ask a question to us or importimage, I will more than willing to answer.
I answered the question for the checkvalve. Anyone that wants it at the injector can put it there. I hope you are ok with that.
I didn't post this thread to teach anyone about the techical merrits of water injection, the thread was posted to discuss this particular product and how it works. Dont tell me what to bring up and what not to.
David
I am not going to play the debate game with you. Any customers that want to ask a question to us or importimage, I will more than willing to answer.
I answered the question for the checkvalve. Anyone that wants it at the injector can put it there. I hope you are ok with that.
I didn't post this thread to teach anyone about the techical merrits of water injection, the thread was posted to discuss this particular product and how it works. Dont tell me what to bring up and what not to.
David
Originally Posted by TTP Engineering
Richard at Aquamist is a great guy and they have an excellent product. I am not sure what you are eluding to?
I am not concerned about this "safeguard" as it is evident there is nothing to discuss. It doesn't exist yet. I like many other members in this technical forum were merely interested in this product and how it worked. If the product was not ready to discuss, it should not have been brought up by YOU.
Since this is a technical forum and not a FS ad, more than one person brought up the subject of the checkvalve. Where I also posted below.
You responded with:
Rather than share an educated opinion on check valves and how and why they are used, this was your response.
Unfortunately it shows members that this thread is not about a technical discussion on water injection, but an ad to sell product.
I am not concerned about this "safeguard" as it is evident there is nothing to discuss. It doesn't exist yet. I like many other members in this technical forum were merely interested in this product and how it worked. If the product was not ready to discuss, it should not have been brought up by YOU.
Since this is a technical forum and not a FS ad, more than one person brought up the subject of the checkvalve. Where I also posted below.
You responded with:
Rather than share an educated opinion on check valves and how and why they are used, this was your response.
Unfortunately it shows members that this thread is not about a technical discussion on water injection, but an ad to sell product.
Originally Posted by coolingmist
Who said he does not have a great product?
I am not going to play the debate game with you. Any customers that want to ask a question to us or importimage, I will more than willing to answer.
I answered the question for the checkvalve. Anyone that wants it at the injector can put it there. I hope you are ok with that.
I didn't post this thread to teach anyone about the techical merrits of water injection, the thread was posted to discuss this particular product and how it works. Dont tell me what to bring up and what not to.
I am not going to play the debate game with you. Any customers that want to ask a question to us or importimage, I will more than willing to answer.
I answered the question for the checkvalve. Anyone that wants it at the injector can put it there. I hope you are ok with that.
I didn't post this thread to teach anyone about the techical merrits of water injection, the thread was posted to discuss this particular product and how it works. Dont tell me what to bring up and what not to.
You skipped over twice the subject of air backflowing through the lines and how what your opinion is on this occurance because it happens to many kits available on the market. I consider this to be a valid problem as it can cause a pump to lose prime. If the fluid does not backflow that far, at the least it can cause a delay in the fuel reaching the nozzle and could cause a lean AFR event at high boost.
Do you have a one way valve available that prevents backflow of the fuel through the lines back to the tank?
Originally Posted by TTP Engineering
You would be hard pressed to beat the ZEITRONIX / Meth injection combination safegaurd that covers: HIGH EGT, LOW TO OUT OF METH, PROGRAMMABLE AFR+TPS%+BOOST COMBINATION.
The way the TTP meth injection kits are setup cut boost to 14psi if EGT is too high, or if AFR> 12.00(for example) AND TPS> 70% AND IF BOOST> 22.5psi.
We have deliberately run out of meth, driven around at WOT while logging EVOSCAN and could not get the car to knock with our safeguard system.
This is the most bulletproof system available to protect your motor and can be run on stock or aftermarket ECU.
The way the TTP meth injection kits are setup cut boost to 14psi if EGT is too high, or if AFR> 12.00(for example) AND TPS> 70% AND IF BOOST> 22.5psi.
We have deliberately run out of meth, driven around at WOT while logging EVOSCAN and could not get the car to knock with our safeguard system.
This is the most bulletproof system available to protect your motor and can be run on stock or aftermarket ECU.
Originally Posted by thatguy
How does the zeitronix cut the boost once those parameters are triggered?
I am not sure what the big secret is.
Originally Posted by TTP Engineering
Through a negative ground trigger to a relay that opens a valve and bypasses boost from the turbo straight to the wastegate= saved motor.
I am not sure what the big secret is.
I am not sure what the big secret is.

Originally Posted by eve-slow
Could you link me to your product? I like to roadrace and have heard that alky is not all that safe, your opinions? Anyone's opinions?
Our products are available at www.ttp-engineering.com/store
The wideband system combo is pictured here:

More info available here:
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...3&postcount=26
Cmon guys.. lets work all as a team not agaisnt each other. Lets keep the positive inputs for the benefit of the customers.
You both are great vendors, lets keep it friendly
Carlos
You both are great vendors, lets keep it friendly
Carlos
Originally Posted by TTP Engineering
Who brought up AQUAMIST or Richard at all? What do they have with your products. Sure wasn't me.
I brought that up because I see you and him argue left and right in a failsafe thread and dont want to do that with you.
You skipped over twice the subject of air backflowing through the lines and how what your opinion is on this occurance because it happens to many kits available on the market. I consider this to be a valid problem as it can cause a pump to lose prime. If the fluid does not backflow that far, at the least it can cause a delay in the fuel reaching the nozzle and could cause a lean AFR event at high boost.
Do you have a one way valve available that prevents backflow of the fuel through the lines back to the tank?
Do you have a one way valve available that prevents backflow of the fuel through the lines back to the tank?
Please let me know if this satisifies you. I will not sleep knowing that just maybe I have not answered to your satisfaction.
Last edited by coolingmist; Nov 28, 2006 at 08:12 PM.


