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Old Feb 18, 2007 | 12:06 PM
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coolingmist varicool test

Needed : people with coolingmist varicool to conduct a test.

this is following on from a post on another forum where 2 differant people proved beyond doubt that the kit/device does not work.

If you have the kit and would like to take part in the test please do the following:

remove the jet/nozzle and place in to a measuring container.
supply the controller with

10 psi
20 psi
30 psi

measure the delivery at these pressures for 1 minute

You may want to try it on 2 differant tune settings. we used 5 and 10.

You can use any decent footpump or track pump which will hold pressure accuratly.

this is the results from our base test device:

1 gph setting 10

10 psi 50cc
20 psi 50cc
30 psi 50cc

3 gph setting 5
10 psi 140 cc
20 psi 140 cc
30 psi 140 cc

3 gph setting 10
10 psi 140 cc
20 psi 140 cc
30 psi 140 cc

5 gph setting 5
10 psi 250 cc
20 psi 250 cc
30 psi 250 cc

5 gp setting 10
10 psi 250cc
20 psi 250cc
30 psi 250cc


open flow with 150 psi pump 1000cc
all tests were performed over 1 minute
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Old Feb 18, 2007 | 12:36 PM
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Why dont you tell everyone what the MIN and MAX settings should be. That makes a major difference as to what the controller puts out. Infact, why not look at our handy dandy chart.

This chart was tested on our controller using the 2 nozzles that come with our vari-cool kits. We took the average of 5 tests and did the following:

1) checkvalve in place after the pump
2) after 150 psi was reached we bypassed the pump. In order for your system to get more range after 150 to 155 psi the switch would need to be bypassed. You should be able to detect clog nozzles for safety if you wish to do that. If you dont want to by pass the switch, your kit should have similar results upto the 150-155 psi range.

3) We used 100% water. using anymix of methanol/water will yield a different result.

4) We used our M5 and our M10 (12 GPH) nozzle.

5) this is used to be a guide, individual results will vary based on many things, but should give you an idea.
6) test ran for exactly 1 minute



Next,

please look at our video we did. this may take 30 minutes to become active. You can duplicate this test.

M5 nozzle in both kits. Vari-Cool Kit on left at 100% dutycycle. Vari-Cool on right at 35% dutycycle.

I dont know how to make it any more clear.


http://www.coolingmist.com/info.aspx?key=dutycycle
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Old Feb 20, 2007 | 05:09 AM
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For The Record

Originally Posted by coolingmist
Why dont you tell everyone what the MIN and MAX settings should be. That makes a major difference as to what the controller puts out. Infact, why not look at our handy dandy chart.

This chart was tested on our controller using the 2 nozzles that come with our vari-cool kits. We took the average of 5 tests and did the following:

1) checkvalve in place after the pump
2) after 150 psi was reached we bypassed the pump. In order for your system to get more range after 150 to 155 psi the switch would need to be bypassed. You should be able to detect clog nozzles for safety if you wish to do that. If you dont want to by pass the switch, your kit should have similar results upto the 150-155 psi range.

3) We used 100% water. using anymix of methanol/water will yield a different result.

4) We used our M5 and our M10 (12 GPH) nozzle.

5) this is used to be a guide, individual results will vary based on many things, but should give you an idea.
6) test ran for exactly 1 minute



Next,

please look at our video we did. this may take 30 minutes to become active. You can duplicate this test.

M5 nozzle in both kits. Vari-Cool Kit on left at 100% dutycycle. Vari-Cool on right at 35% dutycycle.

I dont know how to make it any more clear.
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FOR THE RECORD FOR FUTURE REFERENCE. Published by Coolingmist on the 18th February 2007
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Old Feb 20, 2007 | 08:26 AM
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Min and max settings will definately affect the controller output.

If min was set to 12 psi and max set at 10 (not sure what parameters are on this controller), a properly functioning controller would send full voltage (or continuity to ground in some systems) as soon as any pressure is applied.

If you can provide the settings of the start and full controls, then it would be more believable. Also voltage readings would confirm your results but then again you need the controller start and full settings

Not trying to side with the product, know nothing about it, just trying to get a picture of the virtually nonexistant experimental control in your study, which was a very bold move on your part since sombody's career may be at stake from a study lacking any scientific method

All I see is pressure input and volume output both of which can be changed by the settings. I guess I'm not familiar enough with the product, thats why.

Last edited by C6C6CH3vo; Feb 20, 2007 at 08:29 AM.
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Old Feb 20, 2007 | 09:25 AM
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The chart merely proves the nozzle is flowing the correct amount of liquid at a given pressure.

Any pump connected to a 0-12 V power supply can replicate this.

This chart is hasn't little or nothing to do with the controller in practice.

Last edited by Richard L; Feb 20, 2007 at 01:54 PM.
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Old Feb 20, 2007 | 10:05 AM
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the chart above causes more confusion than help.....only reinvent the wheel if you can make a "rounder" one

I prefer this one by hago
http://www.hagonozzles.com/documents...M%20&%20MW.pdf

know pressure - know flowrate
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Old Feb 20, 2007 | 05:30 PM
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As for the chart, I honestly cannot make any comment - just from a glance I developed a headache.

Try it yourself, observe the above chart and tell me if you didn't recieve a migraine.

I think it's the yellow - black contrast behind Georgia font
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Old Feb 20, 2007 | 06:07 PM
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medium, large.......why no extra small?
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Old Feb 20, 2007 | 09:47 PM
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Super size
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Old Feb 20, 2007 | 09:50 PM
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i have this kit. i also have the varicool and pda. i got thew works here. still yet to install it because i cant find 1 person around me who has done it befor plus i need a tunner who can tune it to the car properly. im stuck. damn looks good though siting here. my g/f fell over the box the other day. HAHAHAHAH oops. did i laugh out load. oops
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