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Old Dec 7, 2011 | 03:46 AM
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Tank,failsafe

Im in the process of getting everything i need to run meth. Quetion is what size tank?
It is not a DD but it does get used.
I was looking at a devils own 2.5 sumped race tank 119$ and a few others aem ect... is 2.5 to big?
Im also not sure what failsafe to buy auqamist or the aem.leaning towards the aem ( ive been saving months and watching prices auqamist jumped from 310 to 390 @ mapperform)
Do you guys recommend replacing head studs as well? car is stock turbo peak at 25 drops off to 21-23.

List of what will go in car when i have all the peices, can you guys let me know if there is anything im missing that i should get as well. I want to drop car off with everthing that shop would need.

Perrin kit
Perrin fmic
Ams licp
Meth tank
Failsafe
Headstuds?
Wideband

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Old Dec 7, 2011 | 04:58 PM
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If you only do street driving and not beating on the car everyday, the stock windshield tank works well.

Use the rear windshield wiper pump, splice it in the to the w/m pump as a PRIMER pump (+10% flow) Priming the w/m pump. This allows for clean installs and keeps it simple. Also not gravity dependent anymore.

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Another tanks could work as well, but the cheapest option is the stocker.

Best of luck.

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Old Dec 7, 2011 | 05:03 PM
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Thanks, its driven not beaten. I was thinkning the washer tank might be to small. I clearly have no idea how long a gal or two of mix would last. Also from my list should there be anything else i should get before install.
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Old Dec 7, 2011 | 08:41 PM
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A gallon on the stock washer tank typically last 2-3 weeks depending on how often they boost. A full road race hpde event expect 2 gallons...

Jet placement is important, also two smaller nozzles will always be better than one big one!

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Old Dec 7, 2011 | 10:28 PM
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It is also wise to get the level sensor well installed and connected to have your failsafe working no matter your tank...
Do not replace head studs for this boost.
Good luck.
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Old Dec 7, 2011 | 10:49 PM
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^thanks, im assuming that i will be able to increase boost a little bit more than 25 do to the injection and the fmic. What is a rule of thumb for stronger headstuds? The kt comes with a few different nozzles. Again guys tHanks for your input
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Old Dec 8, 2011 | 04:01 PM
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AEM will allow user mapping for the failsafe. I have read of several people having to send the Aquamist back for reconfiguration. I have an AEM flow monitor, but haven't installed it yet. I wanted to use it and a DO version 2 controller to see how a cheap PWM-V works. I haven't seen too much about the AEM failsafe, so I don't know if that means that no one is using it, or (conjecture) it doesn't work very well, or it works great, and no one has anything to ask about.
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Old Dec 8, 2011 | 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by 9evolution
What is a rule of thumb for stronger headstuds?
Hummm... I do not think there is a proper rule but I will only change them in case of a very high boost setting with new head installation. (Example: big turbo >34 PSI with Cosworth head)
In your case, just take care to not ask too much to your stock turbo.
26 PSI at peak torque and 22 tapering on high rev is a comfortable mix between performance and reliability.
Hope it helps.
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Old Dec 8, 2011 | 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by 9evolution
assuming that i will be able to increase boost a little bit more than 25 do to the injection and the fmic.
You can go 28PSI @ peak on alt map with WI but take the pressure down >5000/5500RPM if you do not want to blow the turbo.
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Old Dec 8, 2011 | 10:27 PM
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^ i dont want to blow turbo. So peak at 28 tapering off at 5k to 22ish. You guys mix your own WM? Or do you buy pre mix?
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Old Dec 8, 2011 | 11:15 PM
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With any form of injection/mixture or E85 you will be introducing more power and more torque.

This equates to more cylinder pressure. Water especially can lift a head with peak timing and boost. I would not risk it. Change them, its cheap insurance to save a 6-10 hour job. Make sure to double check your TQ sequence after a couple weeks of driving too as head-studs can loosen with expansion.

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Old Dec 9, 2011 | 05:55 AM
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Originally Posted by shaman
AEM will allow user mapping for the failsafe. I have read of several people having to send the Aquamist back for reconfiguration. I have an AEM flow monitor, but haven't installed it yet. I wanted to use it and a DO version 2 controller to see how a cheap PWM-V works. I haven't seen too much about the AEM failsafe, so I don't know if that means that no one is using it, or (conjecture) it doesn't work very well, or it works great, and no one has anything to ask about.
Do you have a link to the thread where people are sending them back for reconfiguration. All the aquamist kits I have run have been awesome with second to none customer service.

The AEM guys would not even help out a member on here. They keep posting stuff for sale but ignored all emails and pm requesting help/ideas to fix the issue.
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Old Dec 9, 2011 | 07:08 AM
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I really appreciate all the info guys. I will keep asking questions! I didnt even buy the meth kit. My wife got it as a gift she didnt know how many other supporting parts i would need to install it. Love her though... Xmas is around the corner looking forward to see what she has gotten me. Ive been leaving pictures and web links around the house hoping she will get the hint
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Old Dec 11, 2011 | 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by 9evolution
^ i dont want to blow turbo. So peak at 28 tapering off at 5k to 22ish. You guys mix your own WM? Or do you buy pre mix?
28->22 is a good start.
I personally do my mix.
Regarding nozzle size, it depends of your setup: check your manual and choose nozzle for 10% WM over gas.
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Old Dec 23, 2011 | 01:55 AM
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Originally Posted by shaman
AEM will allow user mapping for the failsafe. I have read of several people having to send the Aquamist back for reconfiguration. I have an AEM flow monitor, but haven't installed it yet. I wanted to use it and a DO version 2 controller to see how a cheap PWM-V works. I haven't seen too much about the AEM failsafe, so I don't know if that means that no one is using it, or (conjecture) it doesn't work very well, or it works great, and no one has anything to ask about.
Just read this post. The comment of this post is unfounded and cannot be true because I or anyone of our dealers have receieved this request.

The aquamist system for the last five years has multiple failsafe options, re-configuration is unnecessasy.

I too like to see this link.

Last edited by Richard L; Dec 23, 2011 at 03:16 PM. Reason: typo
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