Just doing some information gathering on some of the flashes.

Been reading some but it just seems to get me more and more confused. Please correct me if I'm wrong in any of these points

1.) difference between P1 and P2 version is that the P2 can manipulate the boost levels. This manipulation via the ECU is used in conjunction with ripping out some hose.

2.) There's the Works P2 flash and then there's the Works P2E flash (or P1/P1E). Apparantly the Works P2 and P2E are indentical except the P2E uses ECUTek. Well what in the world does the ECUTek help out with?

3.) There's free mail-in flashes for life...I'm not sure on this one, just with the price difference between the dynoflash and Works flash it's the only logical conclusion I can come up with.

Edumacate me please.

Thanks in advance.

-Chee

 

i currently have the P2 flash and yes it controls boost. the ecutek is the just about the same thing just a different route to make the power. the free reflash for life is if you purchase their products to be reflashed for-IE if you buy a dp, 3"HFC, and axle back you will get a flash for their products. say if you buy the 10.5 hotside from them, then they will flash/tune your car for that...etc.etc. otherwise it is a small fee of $99.00 to reflash for the mods. the P1 flash is for just the basic tune if you dont plan on modding your car or have your own boost controller. The Brain Flash P2 represents an upgrade to the Brain Flash P1 by increasing and holding the factory peak boost level through the ECU. it can also raise your rev limit if chosen, raise or remove the factory boost cut off point, and choose your octane of fuel. i chose WORKS for the reliablility, conservative tune, and service that they provide to their customers.

you can pick any flash you want- all the vendors sell quality products, i think WORKS sells you a quality product AND service...

 

ok,

so if you get say a zze86 brand TBE, they'll re-flash your ECU but the tune will be for Works' TBE and not the zze86 brand TBE. If you want it specifically tuned for a zze86 brand TBE then there's a fee of $99.00......right?

Also I would like to revisit the ECUTek thing. I've tried reading up on it but again I'm just getting confused. Is this thing like an interface to the stock ECU so you can do your own custom tuning? So you get the base flash through Works, and then you modify it a bit to get the best tune for your particular vehicle through the ECUTek. Am I getting this right?

Thanks again!

-Chee

 

ECUTek is just software - a different tool for achieving a desired tuning goal. Imagine if you had to write a term paper for school - you could either use Microsoft Word or Corel Word Perfect. Either way, you achieve the same result, but you've just used a different tool to get there, with it's inherent pros and cons.

The WORKS flash can be custom tuned with either the ECUTek software or the Techtom software. The difference here being that with the Techtom software, WORKS will be able to tweak and customize more settings. Why? Because the ECUTek software does not allow for the tuner to change any other settings then what it ships with, whereas the Techtom software allows the tuner to discover and change as much as they can figure out on their own.

I wouldn't worry about the tunes made for each specific part too much. I'd guess that the flash for the stock car versus the flash for a car with a catback probably isn't too much different, so I wouldn't sweat it too much.

What WORKS is doing is offering you lots of choices which in the end may prove to be a bit confusing to people not necessarily in the know, especially since they haven't explained it very well. Maybe they should consider a FAQ on differences between their own line flashes as well as their reflash/upgrade policies so they could put this issue to rest.

 

yupp /\

 

I see, I think I may be understanding this then....only thing I'm confused about now then is what'd be the advantage of paying the extra $100 for the ECUTek compatible ECU then?

and yeah I agree on the FAQ!

 

P2 vs P2E

 

yeah, I saw that thread, still dunno why you would pay extra for the ECUTek though, there must be some advantage for the price difference

 

gee, it's so nice when a vendor takes the time to answer our lowly questions, especially considering there are two threads concerning this

 

I dont think there's an advantage at all.

I do know that the ECUTek software has a very high up front cost tho'....

 

Technically, it has been answered here:

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...81&postcount=7

 

Jan's points are spot on. The tool used to provide the outcome is the same, it's the brand that's different. EcuTek has a minimum pricing guidline that all vendors must follow and that is why there's a price difference.