Just thought I would provide a bit of quick feedback on the exhale pipe I received and installed today.

The first thing I thought when I saw the pipe was that the tip was on sideways. I was thinking, ok David is laughing because he finally got rid of the only mutant exhale pipe in his inventory. I decided to have faith though, because I know David is pretty serious about his products, and wouldn't let any substandard parts hit the street.

The removal of the stock muffler, and the re-install of the exhale was really super simple. I actually did mine without even raising or ramping my car. Total install time took about 20-30 minutes with most of the time used tightening the new pinch nuts on the three-bolt flange(reminded me of working on my old BMW2002!).

When I finished, low and behold the pipe fit absolutely perfectly. The slant of the tip follows the contour of the rear apron, and the tip is symetrically centered in the exhaust cut-out in the apron!Awesome!!

I haven't driven the car yet, but I did fire her up and it sounds great....can't wait to get her on the road to test it out!!

Overall David, I am very satisfied with the quality and fit of the pipe and give you and Works two .

BTW - The kit comes complete with a new three bolt flange gasket, three copper pinch nuts, and one hanger nut, plus detailed instructions. Not any fluff, just what you need for solidly mounting a well engineered muffler delete pipe.

The only downside is that once the other forthcoming Works exhaust parts are available, I will have to mess with those friggin pinch-nuts again!


Edit/update: Had a chance to try the new pipe out today. Although it has a deeper tone than stock, the sound is not overbearing and there is no droning at any speed. Butt dyno says its definitely faster and feels more responsive even in the heavy heat conditions we are having here in the mid west (98 today).


N10S

 

just a questions for works,we had a meet last week in milpitas and tom showed up with WORKS car.and what i noticed is the burned bumper where the muffler is close to.is it like that because its a prototype and the production version runs cooler.but im still interested when you guys bring out a whole exhaust system instead of just the muffler

 

Pictures of it installed??? How about an update on how the car feel on the road now that you have it installed? Do you also have the 93 octane flash like I do?

 

I will try and get some pics, but will have to borrow my daughters digi-cam so it may be a little bit. I can tell you this, the fit is perfect and the look is excellent with the rolled tip which is angle cut to fit the rear apron of the EVO.

Just had the car out last week on two hours of driving through some very twisty sections. I have to say that the sound and the overall power delivery are noticeably better than just the 93 re-flash alone, and matched with the Evo's excellent gear ratios really instills that driving machine rally-racer feel which makes me love my car. I have also had an opportunity to let her rip down a 2 lane on-ramp with a CLK Mercedes AMG convertible by my side and lets just say the outcome was full-on Evo.

The sound has never been annoying and under throttle it has a very throaty tone with no droning at any rpm. Probably the sound difference may be most notable when you fire her up at idle. I know its just a muffler delete pipe, but man it does do an excellent job! I can't wait unitil Works releases their other complimentary exhaust parts which will then complete the puzzle pieces to Works exhaust system plans.

to Works on this one!

N10S

 

Great to hear. I wish someone in my area had the words exhale like you so that I could take a look at it and hear how it sounds. So you also have the 93 octane flash? What else have you done to the car? Look forward to seeing the photos.

James

 

I have had the original 93 octane re-flash in my car for a couple of months or more, and have several thousand miles worth of driving on it to date.

I recently added the exhale pipe without getting the optimized brain program as I plan on using my free re-flash when I add the throttle body and the rest of the exhaust parts and pieces. You leave a few ponies on the table, but I can live with that for now. The car runs great as it is!!!

I know that once its available, the rest of the Works exhaust kit including DP and midpipe will round out the Works exhaust package nicely. On the intake side the aperture we know is currently available, and the cold air box, and hard I/C piping they are working on will balance the inlet side nicely.

I am also hoping that we see some progress on the "Brain" with boost management capabilities. I have an MBC I have yet to use on my Evo. Personally I would rather just see the ECU controlled boost remapped as it represents a dynamic tuning solution.

I was also hesitant to buy the exhale because I couldn't touch it, look at, or listen to it in person. So far I haven't had any buyers remorse, and am glad I finally popped for it as it seems to mesh nicely with 93 octane re-flash!

N10S

 

Do you mean that this exhale thingie is a pipe extension without a muffler? Would it not be very much louder than stock? My cat back exhaust as a pre-muffler and a muffler (straight through) and it's definitely louder than stock. Not obtrusively loud, but louder nevertheless..... I would have thought that a muffler delete would make the car quite loud...

 

Congr... Sounds very nice. I think Works is doing a outstanding JOB in bring items to the market.
Im saving my free Re-flash for the Boost up grade.

People if you don't have the Re-flash you really need to check in this. Its a great investment for the price. Where else can you get 20-30 hp for $400.00, and the 8950 red line. Dam you got to love it!!!!!!

 

The 3" exhale pipe is a muffler delete pipe and as such is certainly somewhat louder than stock for sure...... but not in an annoying way. The turbo, cat, and stock mid-pipe w/double resonators do a pretty nice job of muffling the sound before you ever get to the rear box.

Many people think the exhale as an axle-back upgrade is dead-ended, and won't provide an option for upgrading to a full turbo-back solution. The reality is that the other Works parts, just haven't been released yet. When the other parts do become available, they will compete with every other turbo-back solution out there, and people will finally realize that the exhale was just the best entry point component to be released first.

That said, its probably not for everyone, as many folks will have difficulty spending $300 on a rear muffler delete pipe...no matter how well its made, how nice it looks , or how good it sounds.

Btw- I am not suggesting that the exhale is necessarily better than another free-flow axle-back or cat-back exhaust system. At the end of the day, they will all make similar hp/tq and the decision will rest more on personal tastes regarding looks, fit and finish, and sound quality.

The Exhale pipe is an alternative worth looking at, especially if you like a great look, excellent fit, decent hp gains, and less weight than any muffler replacement system.

My .02 as a very picky and particular guy who is used to spending $1,300- $1,500 on Milltek and M2 exhaust systems.

N10S

 

how about just bolting on a stainless steel pipe from a local muffler shop?

 

Definitely an option, and honestly the best bang for the buck investment if you can get them to make the proper flange plate. I think one of the guys on this board with the user name sir lurks alot did just that. He can probably tell you what costs and issues are involved in building your own muffler delete pipe.

In looking at the stock rear muffler box, I think any improvement as such will net some decent gains.

 

Per David, the free reflash will not cover the boost upgrade...

 

Jeff; I think that your Works system will sound fine unless u swap the cat for a cat-delete pipe ... and then you are going to rumble! From my experience w/ my turbo back system, it (dp & cb) wasn't much louder than stock (granted I do have a Thermal muffler), but once I installed my off road pipe, it really opened it up and now it's much louder than stock -- though still not overly aggressive. My suggestion to u or other works exhaust customers, if you choose not to be extremely loud, then don't remove the cat (get a race cat instead). Because without a muffler or catalytic converter, there is nothing to quiet this system down (with the exception of the turbo housing). I did; however, conclude that a cat-delete pipe makes an additional 12 whp over the stock cat on a dynopack ... and that's definitely a true 12 hp that one can feel!

 

evo1- I have definitely been there with that thought process. Other than the turbo itself, the cat is really the component that filters out a lot of sound.

I think that Works is working diligently to develop a 3" mid-pipe w/resonator that is specifically engineered with the exhale in mind. Their objective is to keep the sound of the exhale close to the same regardless of whether the stock midpipe or Works midpipe is used.

Using a test pipe with only a resonator to cut sound...well I am sure it would be a bit loud. For less than $100, a test pipe is a pretty cheap investment for 12 whp. Might be worth it just to try it and see what its like. Worst case, you just keep it for track use....or as a conversation piece for your garage?

Btw- You mentioned you were going to send me some info on what you had been up to regarding testing and mods. Email me some details bro!

jredding@usmo.com

N10S

 

When is this boost upgrade supposed to be ready for release? Any details on this upgrade?