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Old Oct 9, 2007 | 10:03 PM
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I am Offically BOOSTED!

I am officially boosted

About a month ago I was lucky enough to pick up a used RRM Turbo kit at a great price. Bought off one of the boys on the board who took part in the original group buy last year.

Did it yesterday. My buddy who is a mechanic helped me. We used the garage he works at, with all the tools and lifts etc... (In Canada it was Thanks Giving, so we had the garage to ourselves)

The install went very smooth and we only had two issues.

First we hit a snag when installing the turbo piggy. Wrong instructions were given in the origninal SMT-6 box. I called RRM and they faxed me the correct instructions right away, they were hand written. Its been said before but RRM has GREAT customer service. After spending some time to get the right wires connected we were good to go.

Everything worked great during the break-in period ( 20m idle and 20 min driving under 3000 rpm). Boosting pulls under 4500 rpm were great. Turned the car off and started again a few times no issues. Went for another ride to test boost pulls under 4500, no problems. Drove into garage stoped, checked everything over, all looks good. Restart the car no problems then all of a sudden my car cut out when idling in the garage. Couldn't start it after that. It would turn over but not start. It seemed like it was starving for fuel. I towed the car to my buddies garage this morning and after some investigating we figured out that the injectors were not getting enough fuel and that the fuel pump was not producing enough pressure. After some further investigating we looked in the tank and appearently the fuel pump pressure regulator which is hooked on to the side of the fuel pump bracket fell out. Like the instructions said we did not put the bottom white bracket on the new fuel pump and after some bumps with nothing holding it in place the pressure regulator fell out. To fix we just installed the new fuel pump just like the OEM fuel pump was original installed, with all fitting and bottom bracket, droped her in and with a little force, we tightened her down. Car started right up. No worries. Took us about 40 mins to figure out that little problem.

After that no problems so far other than the CEL showing up after 70 Kms. Scan showed it is throwing two codes a PQ172B & P0420. Called RRM and they said it was the O2 sensor on the DP not liking the extra fuel. Exactly what my buddy said too. CEL elimnator will fix it and its on its way.

I love it. I haven't had time to open her up on the highway yet, but when doing test pulls under 4500 rpms I got through to 4th and 120 km's in less than a city block. **** this cars fast.

Can't wait until the ECU completely finishes the learning process so that I can really open her up.

Big thanks to Brian at RRM

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Old Oct 9, 2007 | 10:05 PM
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Is it the Non IC Turbo kit or IC? Congrats and enjoy.
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Old Oct 9, 2007 | 11:30 PM
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Gotta hand it to RRM for supporting a second hand turbo kit that has nothing in it for them except take away one potential sale...

...of course you'll be needing their clutch in about 6mo.!!!

Congrats and welcome to the club. Check those header bolts once a month and give all your turbo plumbing a good once over at the same time. Everytime I do this, there's at least one bolt that is a 1/2 turn loose or so.
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Old Oct 10, 2007 | 04:54 AM
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Originally Posted by BlueSteel-06
I am officially boosted

About a month ago I was lucky enough to pick up a used RRM Turbo kit at a great price. Bought off one of the boys on the board who took part in the original group buy last year.

Did it yesterday. My buddy who is a mechanic helped me. We used the garage he works at, with all the tools and lifts etc... (In Canada it was Thanks Giving, so we had the garage to ourselves)

The install went very smooth and we only had two issues.

First we hit a snag when installing the turbo piggy. Wrong instructions were given in the origninal SMT-6 box. I called RRM and they faxed me the correct instructions right away, they were hand written. Its been said before but RRM has GREAT customer service. After spending some time to get the right wires connected we were good to go.

Everything worked great during the break-in period ( 20m idle and 20 min driving under 3000 rpm). Boosting pulls under 4500 rpm were great. Turned the car off and started again a few times no issues. Went for another ride to test boost pulls under 4500, no problems. Drove into garage stoped, checked everything over, all looks good. Restart the car no problems then all of a sudden my car cut out when idling in the garage. Could start it after that. It would turn over but not start like it was starving for fuel. I towed the car to my buddies garage this morning and after some investigating we figured out that the injectors were not getting enough fuel and that the fuel pump was not producing enough pressure. After some further investigating we looked in the tank and appearently the fuel pump pressure regulator which is hooked on to the side of the fuel pump fell out. Like the instructions said we did not put the bottom white bracket on the new fuel pump and after some bumps with nothing holding it in place it fell out. To fix we just installed the new fuel pump just like the OEM fuel pump was installed, with all fitting and bottom bracket, droped her in and with a little force tighten, we tightened her down. Car started right up. No worries. Took us about 40 mins to figure out that little problem.

After that no problems so far other than the CEL showing up after 70 Kms. Scan showed it is throwing two codes a PQ172B & P0420. Called RRM and they said it was the O2 sensor on the DP not liking the extra fuel. Exactly what my buddy said too. CEL elimnator will fix it and its on its way.

I love it. I haven't had time to open her up on the highway yet, but when doing test pulls under 4500 rpms I got through to 4th and 120 km's in less than a city block. **** this cars fast.

Can't wait until the ECU completely finishes the learning process so that I can really open her up.

Big thanks to Brian at RRM
excellent job, good to hear you got it working

please note that the unit you have installed is not an SMT-6, but a Split Second controller. the SMT-6 will not control timing on the RA, and RRM's kit is run with a Split Second unit. If it is the SMT-6 you are better than perfect powers employees and need to post the wiring diagram for the rest of us to use
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Old Oct 10, 2007 | 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by DangerousDan
excellent job, good to hear you got it working

please note that the unit you have installed is not an SMT-6, but a Split Second controller. the SMT-6 will not control timing on the RA, and RRM's kit is run with a Split Second unit. If it is the SMT-6 you are better than perfect powers employees and need to post the wiring diagram for the rest of us to use

As usually Dan you are right. It is the RRM Split Second piggy. I posted late last night after some driving and checking and re-checking everything and for whatever reason I wrote SMT-6 than Split second.

Yes it is the kit with the intercooler. The only RA turbo kit RRM sells has an intercooler.

Everything is still going as it should. The ride is getting smoother, idling getting better etc... BOOST is good!
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Old Oct 10, 2007 | 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by reTro
Gotta hand it to RRM for supporting a second hand turbo kit that has nothing in it for them except take away one potential sale...

...of course you'll be needing their clutch in about 6mo.!!!

Congrats and welcome to the club. Check those header bolts once a month and give all your turbo plumbing a good once over at the same time. Everytime I do this, there's at least one bolt that is a 1/2 turn loose or so.
Yea, I am quickly adding to my must have list from RRM; Clutch, flywheel, Rear sway bar w/perches, rear tie bar or rear strut brace.

One day maybe the LSD, the thought of labour costs is scary on that one. Big brake kit.
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Old Oct 10, 2007 | 09:28 AM
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enjoy the new turbo man. hope everything goes well
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Old Oct 10, 2007 | 09:40 AM
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Yea, I am quickly adding to my must have list from RRM; Clutch, flywheel, Rear sway bar w/perches, rear tie bar or rear strut brace.

One day maybe the LSD, the thought of labour costs is scary on that one. Big brake kit.
yeah, that LSD will be killer though
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Old Oct 10, 2007 | 10:00 AM
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if your friend is a mechanic then you shouldnt have to pay a lot to install the LSD. you should go with the lsd and clutch(flywheel isnt nessesary)then start on suspension parts.

congrats on the kit, im jealous as usual.
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Old Oct 10, 2007 | 12:49 PM
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get the clutch, flywheel and LSD at the same time,,, cut the labor costs in half.
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Old Oct 10, 2007 | 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Ralliart_on_LSD
get the clutch, flywheel and LSD at the same time,,, cut the labor costs in half.
are you running the light flywheel? how much of a difference does it make? b/c ive read in other threads that its kind of a waste of money
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Old Oct 10, 2007 | 02:26 PM
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The lighter flywheel will do similarly what the lighter underdrive pulley will do... Im not convinced the actual underdrive gives us power, but rather the lightened rotational parts.... A lighter flywheel will spin up faster, quicker than a heavier stock one... Revs will also come down quicker than a stock flywheel... Same reason heavy wheels and tires rob us of power, rotational mass takes much more energy to move and keep moving than isolated mass...
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Old Oct 10, 2007 | 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by fkdrcrs
if your friend is a mechanic then you shouldnt have to pay a lot to install the LSD. you should go with the lsd and clutch(flywheel isnt nessesary)then start on suspension parts.

congrats on the kit, im jealous as usual.

Thats just the thing he is a good "freind" and I want to keep it that way. We help each other out like friends do but I would feel like I was abusing the friendship if I used him for all his mechanical abilities and resouces. He does do this for a living. Anyway any future work, like the LSD or clutch, would be done during normal busy, at a reduce cost, I would hope

It was great working with him as I did all the prep work the night before, ie installing intercooler and lower pipe and modifying the bumper as needed etc..) and most of the install myself with his supervision and tools. Nothing like having a lift and all the tools a garage has to speed the install process.

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Old Oct 10, 2007 | 04:17 PM
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Yea I agree on the abusing of the mechanic friend. The LSD is a verry labor intensive job. I couldn't imagine what your friend would do if you just gave him a "thank you" when he was all finished installing it. Actually I know exactly what he would do. He'd hoof you one in the bag.
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Old Oct 10, 2007 | 04:43 PM
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What kind of power to do these kinds of turbo kits put down?
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