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Last edited by otter; May 20, 2005 at 05:54 PM.
Originally Posted by otter
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Originally Posted by otter
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But I'm definitely gonna have to get something to kill that sound. What works the best and robs the least power? A hi-flow cat, or a resonator?
Last edited by tuffguy; May 19, 2008 at 01:39 PM.
Two things that seem to be crossed up too often: "sound" (tone) and "loud" (volume). To say the DP is "loud" does not cover the "sound" it produces.
So, understand that "how do I make it less loud" and "how can I change that sound" are two different issues.
There are many factors which will determine both the volume and tone of your exhaust. If you want a good answer you'll have to be more specific about what the concern is.
Just FFT.
As for high-flow cat: be aware that just putting a cat on your car will not mean you are meeting the emissions standards of CA. In fact unless you pay about $400 for a fully compliant cat, you won't be. A high-flow cat will decrease air-flow by about 15-20% over no cat at all. The cat will lower the volume; I can't say what it will do to your tone.
A resonator will have little effect on your flow, but will not lower the volume as much. It will change the tone, but until you do it you won't know what the result will be.
So, understand that "how do I make it less loud" and "how can I change that sound" are two different issues.
There are many factors which will determine both the volume and tone of your exhaust. If you want a good answer you'll have to be more specific about what the concern is.
Just FFT.
As for high-flow cat: be aware that just putting a cat on your car will not mean you are meeting the emissions standards of CA. In fact unless you pay about $400 for a fully compliant cat, you won't be. A high-flow cat will decrease air-flow by about 15-20% over no cat at all. The cat will lower the volume; I can't say what it will do to your tone.
A resonator will have little effect on your flow, but will not lower the volume as much. It will change the tone, but until you do it you won't know what the result will be.
Originally Posted by the-kid
Would putting the DP on void the warranty of my car?
UNLESS:
1. The warranty states it explicitly
or
2. The aftermarket part can be shown to have caused the damage being claimed
Most dealers will fight you on it, and you could end up having to hire a lawyer depending on the case and the extent of the damage, etc.... but the M-M act is pretty clear.
Originally Posted by ErikT
As for high-flow cat: be aware that just putting a cat on your car will not mean you are meeting the emissions standards of CA. In fact unless you pay about $400 for a fully compliant cat, you won't be. A high-flow cat will decrease air-flow by about 15-20% over no cat at all. The cat will lower the volume; I can't say what it will do to your tone.
A resonator will have little effect on your flow, but will not lower the volume as much. It will change the tone, but until you do it you won't know what the result will be.
A resonator will have little effect on your flow, but will not lower the volume as much. It will change the tone, but until you do it you won't know what the result will be.
Originally Posted by Mitsubishi Guy
I got my down pipe and installed it yesterday in about a hour. It came with no instructions and was packed poorley. I cant bleave it was not damaged. The down pipe was just thrown in a box with a lil buble rap on the ends.. lol. I'm a lil disapointed with the product. Its made my car sound really bad!! I'm not one to care about how loud my car is but this thing BUZZs so loud it makes my car feal like a pos when I'm driving it. I went to muffler man today and now I have to spend an extra 120.oo to get ride of the BUZZ sound. seeing that I allready spent 325.oo's on the thing that makes a grand total of 445.00 I've spent and I cant feal any differance in power. I ran a few runs with my G-force meter and my times went from 6.77 0-60 to a 6.72 0-60.
It all took a month to get here witch would be fine but the guy that I talked to when I orderd it told me it should take around 9 days
. becuase of that I felt they should of upgraded the shipping for me for free sence they told me it would be here sooner than it was but they didnt they still charged me and extra 25.00 for it! The last thing that sorta topped the cake was I asked for a free road//race decale when I orderd the down pipe and they told me sure they will send a silver one and never got it. It seems like thay would wannna get there name out there and give them out with everything they sell anyways. but nope. I guess they dont want poeple to think that the buzz sound is comming from a road race down pipe or something.
I dont want it to sound like I'm trying to bash road race. I'm sure they make good products and I'm sure this dose not happen to many people but with the service I got I dont think I'll be buying from them again. This is a really big bummer they make alot of parts I need to
It all took a month to get here witch would be fine but the guy that I talked to when I orderd it told me it should take around 9 days
. becuase of that I felt they should of upgraded the shipping for me for free sence they told me it would be here sooner than it was but they didnt they still charged me and extra 25.00 for it! The last thing that sorta topped the cake was I asked for a free road//race decale when I orderd the down pipe and they told me sure they will send a silver one and never got it. It seems like thay would wannna get there name out there and give them out with everything they sell anyways. but nope. I guess they dont want poeple to think that the buzz sound is comming from a road race down pipe or something. I dont want it to sound like I'm trying to bash road race. I'm sure they make good products and I'm sure this dose not happen to many people but with the service I got I dont think I'll be buying from them again. This is a really big bummer they make alot of parts I need to
if you obviously have the stock muffler IS GOING TO SOUND BAD!
i know i had one and hated the nasty weed hacker sound too.... solution... i have a custom axleback w/ a magnaflow muffler... loud yet deep
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Originally Posted by PR_Mivec
if you obviously have the stock muffler IS GOING TO SOUND BAD!
i know i had one and hated the nasty weed hacker sound too.... solution... i have a custom axleback w/ a magnaflow muffler... loud yet deep
i know i had one and hated the nasty weed hacker sound too.... solution... i have a custom axleback w/ a magnaflow muffler... loud yet deep
If the downpipe had a high flowcat option. I think it would get better feed back.
I dunno what anyone else thinks but ive had nothing but wonderful dealings with RRM and excellent results with their product. When i orderd my DP it came in the mail about 2 days later. Yeah the packageing was a little poor but its not like it was china or anything, its a pipe. Who needs bubble wrap for a pipe? I installed it myself and did the CEL fix and everything is great. Ive noticed major gains in mid range power. 3rd gear pulls EXTREMELY well throughout 4th. The only complaint. . . sound, and even then its not so bad. It has a raspy spitting sound to it, but ive noticed that once it warms up, its not that bad at all. I just sluff it off telling myself its a drag pipe, who cares.
In my personal oppinion, if you have no other mods and just put the DP on, you may not notice too much of a difference in gains, but when combined with the CAI and Axle-back, its like the perfect 3some.
In my personal oppinion, if you have no other mods and just put the DP on, you may not notice too much of a difference in gains, but when combined with the CAI and Axle-back, its like the perfect 3some.
Downpipe is owesome. It is the best single bolt on for the RA. For the 100+ D.P.s out there guys are thrilled with it. There are always going to be a few guys that find it to be too loud. Every mod has some trades offs. As of late we were back ordered on these and guys had to wait a month. Sorry for that. It ususally does not happen but some production delays put us a little behind last month. We are all caught up now on D.P. We have a pretty good inventory of them now.
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Originally Posted by ErikT
Two things that seem to be crossed up too often: "sound" (tone) and "loud" (volume). To say the DP is "loud" does not cover the "sound" it produces.
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I have a general grasp of the difference, but since I don't know exactly what happens when you add the downpipe (does it only increase the airflow, does it increase the tone, or both?), what would it take to get it to sound more like stock? Because I don't know if adding the DP makes it a higher tone than stock. If that's the case, would adding a resonator lower the tone back down so it sounds stock?
(So this is what happened to my thread! I thought that it got erased...)
Originally Posted by tuffguy
Thanks for the explanation.
I have a general grasp of the difference, but since I don't know exactly what happens when you add the downpipe (does it only increase the airflow, does it increase the tone, or both?), what would it take to get it to sound more like stock? Because I don't know if adding the DP makes it a higher tone than stock. If that's the case, would adding a resonator lower the tone back down so it sounds stock?
(So this is what happened to my thread! I thought that it got erased...)
I have a general grasp of the difference, but since I don't know exactly what happens when you add the downpipe (does it only increase the airflow, does it increase the tone, or both?), what would it take to get it to sound more like stock? Because I don't know if adding the DP makes it a higher tone than stock. If that's the case, would adding a resonator lower the tone back down so it sounds stock?
(So this is what happened to my thread! I thought that it got erased...)
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