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Old Aug 7, 2005 | 09:05 AM
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Lancer Engine Damper

Hi, All,

I have prototyped an engine damper for the Evo, since I didn't like the available product very much. It works great at reducing drivetrain lash. Probably takes out 75% of it.
I haven't seen one of these for the Lancer. Is this something that you guys want? My current design can be easily converted to a Lancer one. I'd love your input.

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Old Aug 7, 2005 | 09:19 AM
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Yes it is. We want this part. Please post more info.
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Old Aug 7, 2005 | 09:27 AM
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Joe - the reason that I didn't like the ones on the market was the method of "dampening". They weren't motion dampers by the strict definition of the word.

I have sourced an oil-based linear damper that I used on my Evo prototype. It is a damper. This will help when "leaving the line in a hurry", as well as during shifting, since the engine won't be flopping fore and aft as much as it used to without the damper in place.

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Old Aug 7, 2005 | 09:33 AM
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You may want to tell everybody what exactly an engine dampener does, and how, if at all, it will effect our cars.
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Old Aug 7, 2005 | 09:48 AM
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BLK -

Thanks for the tip.

Your engine is suspended between two engine mounts, basically one on each fender wall. If you've ever seen a dyno pull, you'll know that during operation, the engine rocks backward when under power, and forwards when you get off the throttle under engine braking.

Drivetrain lash can be demonstrated easily this way: get your car in second gear at around 3000 rpms. Now alternately floor and fully release the gas pedal at a rate of three cycles per second. Bouncy, eh? That's drivetrain lash. A little piece of it is in the gears, and another little piece of it is in the A-arm bushings.

The majority of it is in the engine mounts. Way stiff polyurethane rally engine mounts are available, but they tend to tranmit lots of vibration to your body shell - not a great thing for a daily driver.

An drivetrain lash damper in essence adds a shock absorber to a point on your engine that is as far away as possible from the engine's axis of rotation. It limits the amount of rotation that the engine can do when you go from throttle on to throttle off. It makes the car feel "tight" when driving, mostly when transitioning from throttle on to throttle off, which is a good thing.

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Old Aug 7, 2005 | 09:59 AM
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This is a very good thing. I am very interested in this and would like to see pictures of your prototype. May I ask why this was not jumped on by the EVO guys? If you need a guinea pig for testing I am more than willing.
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Old Aug 7, 2005 | 10:19 AM
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My ears are listening.

Weapon R supposely said the evo8 dampner would work, but found out it didn't work by a longshot. Please put the R&D into it. I will purchase one.
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Old Aug 7, 2005 | 10:30 AM
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hey every once in a while i "grind" 2nd gear when i redline first and slam it in 2nd... do u think its cuz of my engine moving?? i got the rrm motormounts but i didnt install them yet.. will that eliminate my "grinding"
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Old Aug 7, 2005 | 10:33 AM
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I am in! what price are we looking at? Have you decided where it is going to mount, both on the engine and on the frame? or is that what you need a test car for
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Old Aug 7, 2005 | 10:58 AM
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Yes thats what we need.

Intrested to see the diffrence between the normal ones and your oil ones.
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Old Aug 7, 2005 | 11:24 AM
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All ears!
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Old Aug 7, 2005 | 11:55 AM
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Joe -

I'll take a pic later today and post it here, although it's on my Evo.

Arithmetic - Thanks, I'll keep you guys posted.

Ralliart - Not sure about your grinding.

Majik - It'll certainly be priced below the competition.

Adam and 403 - Thanks, I'll keep you guys posted.

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Old Aug 7, 2005 | 12:33 PM
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ok start a list IM IN!!!
this is a must ive seen the competitors in action and works ok.. you look like a strightfoward guy... make it happen....
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Old Aug 7, 2005 | 01:22 PM
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I am interested as well, tell me is your prototype a similar design to this. http://www.ingallseng.com/parts/stiffy.htm
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Old Aug 7, 2005 | 01:46 PM
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I soo am listening!!!!
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