ACCOLADE - RPW 4-1 Header System Prototype Pics Released !
Originally Posted by amg_dragon
You're wrong. WE dont' win, THEY win. They make money off of it and we have to wait and beg, plead, needle, poke, jab and sparky slap an answer out of them! I for one am getting tired of waiting months and months past estimated times of release for parts that take a day to a week to R&D for a company with the equipment to mandrel bend pipes. Waiting for "the other guy" to release prices is a punk way to do business. People are just going to get mad for one, for another, the word on the street is what will make up our minds anyways. There's an RRM crowd that will buy anything and everything from them, then there's the rest of us that want a good product at a decent price no matter who makes it. So for Freaks sake, release the prices and a time frame for X number of parts to be available.
Originally Posted by amg_dragon
You're wrong. WE dont' win, THEY win. They make money off of it and we have to wait and beg, plead, needle, poke, jab and sparky slap an answer out of them! I for one am getting tired of waiting months and months past estimated times of release for parts that take a day to a week to R&D for a company with the equipment to mandrel bend pipes. Waiting for "the other guy" to release prices is a punk way to do business. People are just going to get mad for one, for another, the word on the street is what will make up our minds anyways. There's an RRM crowd that will buy anything and everything from them, then there's the rest of us that want a good product at a decent price no matter who makes it. So for Freaks sake, release the prices and a time frame for X number of parts to be available.
hopfully the will read this and get their buts on hear and tell us what we want to know.
Originally Posted by amg_dragon
You're wrong. WE dont' win, THEY win. They make money off of it and we have to wait and beg, plead, needle, poke, jab and sparky slap an answer out of them! I for one am getting tired of waiting months and months past estimated times of release for parts that take a day to a week to R&D for a company with the equipment to mandrel bend pipes. Waiting for "the other guy" to release prices is a punk way to do business. People are just going to get mad for one, for another, the word on the street is what will make up our minds anyways. There's an RRM crowd that will buy anything and everything from them, then there's the rest of us that want a good product at a decent price no matter who makes it. So for Freaks sake, release the prices and a time frame for X number of parts to be available.
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Guy's that is the photo of the first protoype. The second redesign has been finished, and we are getting htem shipped to us. The second redesign utilises a longer primary pipe length of an addiation 1 - 3" for more torque.
The design also comes with two options - supplied with our own high flow cat converter to replace the two or a flange and you can cut and weld the second cat system onto our flex pipe / down pipe.
O2 Nuts are fitted into the header and onto our cat converter, or a nut supplied if you want ot use the origonal cat converter
We will have finilised photos and dyno reports on these midle of next week.
The design also comes with two options - supplied with our own high flow cat converter to replace the two or a flange and you can cut and weld the second cat system onto our flex pipe / down pipe.
O2 Nuts are fitted into the header and onto our cat converter, or a nut supplied if you want ot use the origonal cat converter
We will have finilised photos and dyno reports on these midle of next week.
awsome news =) my car finally got repaired and im about ready to start getting back into things. good timing =) I couldnt be more happy to see RPW finally getting things moving!
And I agree with amg. If a company needs to see what the compentition is saying before it can say what it need to say, that tells me that their word is marketing bullsh*t and not backed by truth.
By saying you dont have numbers but have done R&D......If you haven't even dynoed your product, dont cry about R&D, because the "R" has obviously been halfas*ed. From what I've seen, RPW has been pretty solid and honest and supportive with regards to detail disclosure. You guys have my support as long as you keep it up!
And I agree with amg. If a company needs to see what the compentition is saying before it can say what it need to say, that tells me that their word is marketing bullsh*t and not backed by truth.
By saying you dont have numbers but have done R&D......If you haven't even dynoed your product, dont cry about R&D, because the "R" has obviously been halfas*ed. From what I've seen, RPW has been pretty solid and honest and supportive with regards to detail disclosure. You guys have my support as long as you keep it up!
Hey welcome back Blk! I was just talking about you in another thread! Well we have a price now! Same price as the 2.0 lancers (I'm guessing the 4g94 not 63) which currently is 780 AUS or ~575.50 US Dollars. That's for the street version: Header w O2 nut, dp and cat with HPC coating running an additional ~217.50 US dollars according to their January price guide and www.xe.com (Currency converter from AUS to USD) so those are estimates not guaranteed prices plus shipping of course.
We're slowly but surely getting there.
Thanks again RPW for stepping up!
We're slowly but surely getting there.
Thanks again RPW for stepping up!
Originally Posted by Mitsiman
We will have finilised photos and dyno reports on these midle of next week.
Originally Posted by Ralli04Art
600$ +????? i dont think so...
I don't think people will be disappointed with them... be assured that alot of time and effort is being done to give you the opportunity to have the best Headers for your cars
I suppose I go by the thought of you get what you pay for....
Fast + good = not cheap
cheap + fast = not good
good + cheap = not fast
man, both companies been pullin the same bullsh*t for the past two months , so i dont want hear anything about who is telling the truth . all im sayin is business is business weather its rrm , rpw or any other manufactures out there , they are in it for your money not for your friendship.
as far as im concerned , i dont have a "favorite" i just want a good product at a good price and what it looks like so far , i might have to go elswere
as far as im concerned , i dont have a "favorite" i just want a good product at a good price and what it looks like so far , i might have to go elswere
Don't forget, this is not just the header. This is the header itself, the downpipe and the high-flo cat. The $575 is for EVERYTHING mentioned.
If you want to cry about price, lets look at whats out there now. Last I checked, RRM wants $389 for just the downpipe and the cat. Then you still have to go and have a shop weld the cat in for you! So add another $40 for the labor, at least. Not to mention that your front exhaust is now in 3 peices instead of 1. Expect filament issues and headaches. Ohh, and your still out a header.
So if RRM can offer their header for $146, there really isnt any competition here, price wise. Time will tell.
But lets not make this one of 'those' threads. I think the price is fine, considering everything you get. Buying just a header without other exhaust components that make it worth wild has always been just stupid imho. If this is more than you want, be my guest to sell yourself short.
If you want to cry about price, lets look at whats out there now. Last I checked, RRM wants $389 for just the downpipe and the cat. Then you still have to go and have a shop weld the cat in for you! So add another $40 for the labor, at least. Not to mention that your front exhaust is now in 3 peices instead of 1. Expect filament issues and headaches. Ohh, and your still out a header.
So if RRM can offer their header for $146, there really isnt any competition here, price wise. Time will tell.
But lets not make this one of 'those' threads. I think the price is fine, considering everything you get. Buying just a header without other exhaust components that make it worth wild has always been just stupid imho. If this is more than you want, be my guest to sell yourself short.
People need to quit crying about what these guys aren't doing for us. If you don't like the product, or you don't like the price, excercise your right as a consumer and not buy it.
You're absolutely right, they aren't competing for our friendship, it's OUR money. No one is forcing you to buy anything if you are that frustrated. We don't pay to be here, they do. They can say as little or as much about their existing or up and coming products as they like because frankly it's just a courtesy to us that they keep us informed on their progress anyway. Just because either group took the time to snap a pic of some headers and answer the same damned question about what exhaust scenarios these will bolt up to, in no way means they signed up to get bossed around and disrespected on the basis you may one day buy a part or two from them.
You're absolutely right, they aren't competing for our friendship, it's OUR money. No one is forcing you to buy anything if you are that frustrated. We don't pay to be here, they do. They can say as little or as much about their existing or up and coming products as they like because frankly it's just a courtesy to us that they keep us informed on their progress anyway. Just because either group took the time to snap a pic of some headers and answer the same damned question about what exhaust scenarios these will bolt up to, in no way means they signed up to get bossed around and disrespected on the basis you may one day buy a part or two from them.