go turbo or go srt-4?
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Originally Posted by WoRkZ
Hmmmm... I wouldn't go there if I was you. But since you mentionned it yourself, what were the warranty claims on that Neon again? IE: Unmodded engines blowing up??? And let's not go through the whole list... I'll spare you the embarasment (and can frankly use my time on something more productive than proving something that already is).
BTW, you sound more and more desperate my boy... trying to personnaly attack people on here is quite pathetic. Why don't you go back to your Neon friends instead of fighting a loosing battle and having to go through people's post history to hang on to any weakness you could hopefully find... Instead, why not use the time to try and make your car handle okay? 4k and a couple of months and it could even come really close to a real car in that department. The interior will still fall appart on you though... but hey, I didn't choose to buy a crappy car, you did.
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BTW, you sound more and more desperate my boy... trying to personnaly attack people on here is quite pathetic. Why don't you go back to your Neon friends instead of fighting a loosing battle and having to go through people's post history to hang on to any weakness you could hopefully find... Instead, why not use the time to try and make your car handle okay? 4k and a couple of months and it could even come really close to a real car in that department. The interior will still fall appart on you though... but hey, I didn't choose to buy a crappy car, you did.
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Go ahead and try to embarass me. See what you can dig up regarding "unmodded engines blowing up". LMAO!!! Was this like one case or two? Don't act like this has happened to hundreds.
And while I'm at it, shall I dig up all the issues with Lancers?
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Originally Posted by wiretap
lol.. my lancer is just an OZ, not even in the same class.. go compare it to an evo for power and tunability (which in that case, the evo wins both ways). I would bet you if you came and met me for a handling competetion, I would outhandle you any day of the week. My buddy with the srt-4, before it blew up, would try to keep up with me on off-ramps, and I could go like 10mph faster than him without my tires even skidding.
I keep mentioning the Consumer Reports ad because it is very relevant in your arguement for the quality of your car. Don't try to dance around the subject and poke fun with the door handles comment.. oh btw, they also mentioned in that article that the doors of the srt closed very loud and cheaply compared to a cheap lancer es, whose doors closed firmly and quietly. It was just a side comment though on interior quality, nothing performance wise. =/
Seriously, you should go out and try to get a life, if there is any hope left for you.
I keep mentioning the Consumer Reports ad because it is very relevant in your arguement for the quality of your car. Don't try to dance around the subject and poke fun with the door handles comment.. oh btw, they also mentioned in that article that the doors of the srt closed very loud and cheaply compared to a cheap lancer es, whose doors closed firmly and quietly. It was just a side comment though on interior quality, nothing performance wise. =/
Seriously, you should go out and try to get a life, if there is any hope left for you.
You're judging the SRT-4 about how the doors shut? First off i've 'shut the doors' on my SRT and on EVO's and i can tell you the SRT's doors shut much more solidly.
Now on to which cars handle better: SRT handles better stock to stock. I know some of you would REALLY like to justify the RA by saying it does something better than an SRT in terms of performance but it really doesn't stock to stock.
One (or some) of you were talking about reliability of Neon's. I also saw how supposedly one of you "buddy's" SRT blew up. These motors can handle over 500whp without blowing up. Your buddy must of been an idiot to destroy his. As far as general reliability, these cars are FAR beyond normal neons. I've had no problems and I'm at 45k miles stock everything, including stock clutch. Still drives as good as the day i bought it.
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You realize the SRT-4 comes with much better stock tires than the Ralliart, right?
I kinda want this thread to stick around as a testament to your idiocy, Mr. Wiretap. I think you are the "true hypocrite".
I kinda want this thread to stick around as a testament to your idiocy, Mr. Wiretap. I think you are the "true hypocrite".
Last edited by mike69; Jul 29, 2005 at 11:07 AM.
Originally Posted by Hypnoz
Wow the ignorance in here about the SRT is rediculous. There is no comparison between a turbo RA and an SRT-4. The SRT-4 will be made faster MUCH cheaper. Has a stronger motor, stronger tranny, and even if you keep it near stock it has a warranty.
You're judging the SRT-4 about how the doors shut? First off i've 'shut the doors' on my SRT and on EVO's and i can tell you the SRT's doors shut much more solidly.
Now on to which cars handle better: SRT handles better stock to stock. I know some of you would REALLY like to justify the RA by saying it does something better than an SRT in terms of performance but it really doesn't stock to stock.
One (or some) of you were talking about reliability of Neon's. I also saw how supposedly one of you "buddy's" SRT blew up. These motors can handle over 500whp without blowing up. Your buddy must of been an idiot to destroy his. As far as general reliability, these cars are FAR beyond normal neons. I've had no problems and I'm at 45k miles stock everything, including stock clutch. Still drives as good as the day i bought it.
You're judging the SRT-4 about how the doors shut? First off i've 'shut the doors' on my SRT and on EVO's and i can tell you the SRT's doors shut much more solidly.
Now on to which cars handle better: SRT handles better stock to stock. I know some of you would REALLY like to justify the RA by saying it does something better than an SRT in terms of performance but it really doesn't stock to stock.
One (or some) of you were talking about reliability of Neon's. I also saw how supposedly one of you "buddy's" SRT blew up. These motors can handle over 500whp without blowing up. Your buddy must of been an idiot to destroy his. As far as general reliability, these cars are FAR beyond normal neons. I've had no problems and I'm at 45k miles stock everything, including stock clutch. Still drives as good as the day i bought it.
Paragraph 2: no, that was just a sidenote consumer reports noticed, not my comparison.
Paragraph 3: On the skidpad stock for stock, they are nearly IDENTICAL, the srt handles like a boat in the slalum compared to a ralliart, no specific number, but thats what SpeedVision said on the MotorWeek show.
Paragraph 4: actually it was 2 of my friends, and they were tuned by a professional car shop, it was a pure weakness in the engine blocks, nearly the same identical problem of the engine block weak spot. I was also talking about the reliability in Consumer Reports studies in correspondence to the lancer, because the was the issue being discussed at the moment. Good day.
Originally Posted by wEstSidE
You realize the SRT-4 comes with much better stock tires than the Ralliart, right?
I kinda want this thread to stick around as a testament to your idiocy, Mr. Wiretap. I think you are the "true hypocrite".
I kinda want this thread to stick around as a testament to your idiocy, Mr. Wiretap. I think you are the "true hypocrite".
Thank you for showing me that I am a true hypocrite. I had the courage to admit my car actually had a flaw or two I was unsatisfied with.
I mean, oh my god, look out, I'm a hypocrite. These people are trying to say there aren't any problems with the whole line of dodge cars as far as I can see. Now thats hypocracy. 
edit: all cars have flaws, it is just the frequency of which they happen that shows to be much greater in dodge cars (about 20x more) according to Consumer Report studies. (the largest collection of professional studies conducted on anything and everything over years and years)
srt-4 suck ***, handling,looks and power. the ralliart if its turbo can whip a srt -4 *** if tuned right. turbo the car. srt-4 looks like a newer grimlin with *** pipes coming out the back.
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Originally Posted by wiretap
if the tires make the car, thats sad..
Thank you for showing me that I am a true hypocrite. I had the courage to admit my car actually had a flaw or two I was unsatisfied with. I mean, oh my god, look out, I'm a hypocrite. These people are trying to say there aren't any problems with the whole line of dodge cars as far as I can see. Now thats hypocracy.
edit: all cars have flaws, it is just the frequency of which they happen that shows to be much greater in dodge cars (about 20x more) according to Consumer Report studies. (the largest collection of professional studies conducted on anything and everything over years and years)
Thank you for showing me that I am a true hypocrite. I had the courage to admit my car actually had a flaw or two I was unsatisfied with.
I mean, oh my god, look out, I'm a hypocrite. These people are trying to say there aren't any problems with the whole line of dodge cars as far as I can see. Now thats hypocracy. edit: all cars have flaws, it is just the frequency of which they happen that shows to be much greater in dodge cars (about 20x more) according to Consumer Report studies. (the largest collection of professional studies conducted on anything and everything over years and years)
Originally Posted by evo77
What you fail to realize is that this study includes all Neon models (which may or may not include srt trims). The SRT does NOT have the same motor, pcm, transmission, clutch or brakes as the BASE neon.
... but the rest can fall on the road side though, who cares?
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