Tougher choice than it should be, RA vs MR
Originally Posted by ralliartjapracr
with the 4G63T engine on the EVO it has a shorter block which means it's perfect for high revving, hence why you can reflash the evo ecu and make it rev to 10,000 rpm, the RA engine has a long stroke which is not meant for high revving.
Originally Posted by RREvo
Bigger isn't always better .
I guess you haven't seen with the guys in PR have done with the ralliart, try 8,000 - 10,000rpms on the 4G69.
Last edited by AtO-MiX; Jan 25, 2006 at 04:31 PM.
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Well I have a simple solution get a used MR and with the extra money get a turbo for your Ralliart, then you tell us what you prefer. Really it boils down to what you prefer.
My friend has the MR, very nice car... but keeping up with him in my Turbo RA is funny. You can just see the frustration in his face. lol....
My friend has the MR, very nice car... but keeping up with him in my Turbo RA is funny. You can just see the frustration in his face. lol....
Originally Posted by ralliartjapracr
i have heard of the 508who RA in PR is it really???? if thats the case I stand corrected on me saying that our engine is not meant for high rev......i guess that means we can spank some @ss once we build the engine who hooooooooo........
my Car saYs RA not MR lol..........
my Car saYs RA not MR lol..........
From what I heard, Turbo Tech P.R. car isn't revving in the 8k-10k range. The ralliart has potential, it just depends how deep are your pockets.
Originally Posted by AtO-MiX
Well unless PR becomes the 51st state who the hell cares what they are doing down there...it aint here,let them have fun on their island.
Originally Posted by deathsythe12
yup 500 hp , the guy has it at his store. Car looks great. There should be some vids around here.
what has japan or europe done to the ralliart??. Look thats great the most powerful ralliart wow ...but unless its on my street i really dont care.500whp is awesome for the ralliart who knows how far it will go but the Evo has alrdy gone way beyond that...still the RA sounds awesome.
Last edited by AtO-MiX; Jan 25, 2006 at 09:16 PM.
Originally Posted by AtO-MiX
what has japan or europe done to the ralliart??. Look thats great the most powerful ralliart wow ...but unless its on my street i really dont care.500whp is awesome for the ralliart who knows how far it will go but the Evo has alrdy gone way beyond that...still that is awesome.
Originally Posted by AtO-MiX
500whp is awesome for the ralliart who knows how far it will go but the Evo has alrdy gone way beyond that...still that is awesome.
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Originally Posted by ralliartjapracr
ok NEZ like i said I know exactly where you are, but hmmmm how do i say it, ya rookies always play the lap times and scca rules.....hence yes your a rookie in your stock mr. i am part of the race team KaNgZukO in phillie, if you think your up to the challenge go out to delaware ave in phillie and ask for Drospeed and KanGzuKo, im tired of your petty games.......if you think your fast we have a track thats legal that you can run......but in order for you to race me you have to race members that don't rank as high as i am, you have to prove yurself and believe me in phillie many evo's have gotten eaten up alive by crx's and civics.....hell ill even use my ek9 in a run instead of the RA.......yes i am on a team, and yes i believe i have more downhill experience than you do, rookies always cry about lap times and seconds, i don't count lap times and seconds, i count on whoever gets to the finish line in the downhill, it's not a time attack its a race to the finish line...........
Ummmm, it's spelled PHILLY.
i never put down the ralliart...i dont care if this is evo general or ralliart general...this is EVOLUTIONM FORUMS,the guy wanted advice on getting a Evo or keeping his RA so i decided to give my opinion if u look at the start of this thread u will see that . Somehow it got on the topic of the 500whp ralliart because some other evo guy said something. Like i said before 500whp ralliart is awesome...and no i dont think the evo is the god or all cars.
Last edited by AtO-MiX; Jan 25, 2006 at 09:18 PM.
Originally Posted by ralliartjapracr
ok NEZ like i said I know exactly where you are, but hmmmm how do i say it, ya rookies always play the lap times and scca rules.....hence yes your a rookie in your stock mr. i am part of the race team KaNgZukO in phillie, if you think your up to the challenge go out to delaware ave in phillie and ask for Drospeed and KanGzuKo, im tired of your petty games.......if you think your fast we have a track thats legal that you can run......but in order for you to race me you have to race members that don't rank as high as i am, you have to prove yurself and believe me in phillie many evo's have gotten eaten up alive by crx's and civics.....hell ill even use my ek9 in a run instead of the RA.......yes i am on a team, and yes i believe i have more downhill experience than you do, rookies always cry about lap times and seconds, i don't count lap times and seconds, i count on whoever gets to the finish line in the downhill, it's not a time attack its a race to the finish line...........
Initial D style
No seriously if you guys do that just keep it safe .
Nez, dude..
let the man give his opinion. if you dont agree .. just say you dont agree. dont call him unethical or biased or whatever. youll just start a fight, unless thats what you are looking for, just say what you disagree with and get out.
sorry if that sounded rude, wasnt meant to be. just had to keep it simple
dont bother replying, cause im not gonna read it
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anyway, as for the choice in cars.
go for the evo for obvious reasons.
but if you want a challenge and originality, turbo that RA and sink some cash into machining some parts for the rest of us!
let the man give his opinion. if you dont agree .. just say you dont agree. dont call him unethical or biased or whatever. youll just start a fight, unless thats what you are looking for, just say what you disagree with and get out.
sorry if that sounded rude, wasnt meant to be. just had to keep it simple
dont bother replying, cause im not gonna read it
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anyway, as for the choice in cars.
go for the evo for obvious reasons.
but if you want a challenge and originality, turbo that RA and sink some cash into machining some parts for the rest of us!
Originally Posted by Arithmetic
I guess you haven't seen with the guys in PR have done with the ralliart, try 8,000 - 10,000rpms on the 4G69.
you must be a lonely man,
you must be a lonely man,
I guess you are unsure about your size and ability if you think that way in an Automotive Forum
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Originally Posted by Daddymac
I'll make this short and thought provoking. I'm not going to debate between engines and which is better.
However, I will ask the thread starter this. What is your purpose for this car? JUST a daily driver for fun? Show's? Track/Auto cross? How much do you want to put into the Evo IF you buy it?
Answer these questions and your answer will be a little clearer. For example...if your going to take it to the track for racing then find out if there are any HP limitations or if the class your in matters as to your number of drive wheels.
If your doing show's then stay with the RRM tricked RA (turbo, bodykit, stereo...) and you'll be different and still way under your budget.
Either way...you get the idea. People here need to realize theres WAY more to buying a car then just HP numbers and how much you can squeeze out of an engine.
However, I will ask the thread starter this. What is your purpose for this car? JUST a daily driver for fun? Show's? Track/Auto cross? How much do you want to put into the Evo IF you buy it?
Answer these questions and your answer will be a little clearer. For example...if your going to take it to the track for racing then find out if there are any HP limitations or if the class your in matters as to your number of drive wheels.
If your doing show's then stay with the RRM tricked RA (turbo, bodykit, stereo...) and you'll be different and still way under your budget.
Either way...you get the idea. People here need to realize theres WAY more to buying a car then just HP numbers and how much you can squeeze out of an engine.
My goal for whatever I do is to have a very reliable daily driver that doesn't require long weekends just tuning, but if the ricer in his little civic pulls up to me, I want to be able to hand him his *** and show him that DSM doesn't suck as much as he tells all of his friends. If I get the Evo, how much I put into it will depend on how much I have to put into it, right off the bat probably not much. Just a few things to tweak the factory output. I'd also like to start autoX, but from what I've seen, both cars have the potential to be quite formidable. Unfortunately I've never autocrossed before so I couldn't tell you how the ralliart is at it or if I'd even be interested in doing it a second time.
This really isn't a question of HP vs HP or car vs car, so you guys can stop all the arguing about RA vs Evo. They are both really really awesome cars and the community as a whole could benefit more from us sharing our knowledge than arguing and bickering.
Bottom line, I live to drive. Not the silly '1/4 mile at a time' type living... I wake up in the morning and look forward to the hour drive to work because it's spent in my car, driving. Even when traffic is bad, I smile at the thought of just idling down the highway. I drive to all the metal shows that my friends and I go to. I drive us from bar to bar whenever we go out. I take my car out at 3 in the morning just to roll down the windows, open the sunroof and haul *** down the local roads and interstate.
Everyone is saying maintenance on the Evo is really high. What exactly is expensive about it and how expensive? I checked into insurance rates as well, 530/month for the evo. Paying 430/month for the RA so no big deal. I'll have no more car note so 100 a month isn't an issue.
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Originally Posted by ralliartjapracr
ok NEZ like i said I know exactly where you are, but hmmmm how do i say it, ya rookies always play the lap times and scca rules.....hence yes your a rookie in your stock mr. i am part of the race team KaNgZukO in phillie, if you think your up to the challenge go out to delaware ave in phillie and ask for Drospeed and KanGzuKo, im tired of your petty games.......if you think your fast we have a track thats legal that you can run......but in order for you to race me you have to race members that don't rank as high as i am, you have to prove yurself and believe me in phillie many evo's have gotten eaten up alive by crx's and civics.....hell ill even use my ek9 in a run instead of the RA.......yes i am on a team, and yes i believe i have more downhill experience than you do, rookies always cry about lap times and seconds, i don't count lap times and seconds, i count on whoever gets to the finish line in the downhill, it's not a time attack its a race to the finish line...........
Mods, please delete every post in this thread by ralliartjapracr and the nez guy. Thanks, they are off topic and having a personal battle You two could take this to PMs. Thanks.