I think evry one seriously thinking about the enviroment should prepare like a removable high flow cat with two flanges. When you are on track remove it and put in a test pipe , for daily driving use the HF cat..

 

+1 to intelligence.....again. I know, let's all buy f1 cars and drive to church with them on Sunday. Why in the world does anyone, and I really mean anyone, need to run catless on public streets? I know I said I wouldn't say anymore, but I can't help it when people just don't use common sense. Maybe everyone who thinks we aren't polluting should turn the discovery channel on every now and again and turn off the playboy channel. I know it's not as intersting to live a well informed life rather than a completely blind risk filled life, but it does actually make more sense to pay attention to what is happening around you.

 

I mean I think it's like a drug , once one person tries it it will try to make other ones to do it , vicious habit, If I were a cop I would check every car running Catless and take em to the impound, it's because of those people that we have inspections and strict laws.

 

well in regards to changing anything on your exhuast and not putting in a stock part, well I guess the auto parts stores should just pack up and close becuase I know since I use to work for one that those parts are NOT STOCK parts in respect to the dealer parts. Secondly if an exhuast part fails you have to replace it, and as long as it complies with OBDII standards then its fine.

I also know for a fact that there are people who drive around and inspect vehicles and can right you a ticket for having problems with your axhuast ect if they wish. Dangerousdan I think you know who I am talking about. I dont remember there titles but yes they can pull you over and inpect your exhuast ect and right you a ticket or have your stuff taken to the pound.

Heck I dont know why even if you put a turbo on your car you would go catless, like stated above run a cutout for the track and your still leagal at the same time.

Final thought of the day !!!!
Ignorance is not an excuse, its just calling yourself lazy.

 

Not quite correct. It is illegal to modify emission control parts (cats, PCV valves, those sorts of things), but not exhaust parts. Anything behind the cat is fair game as long as you comply with local sound laws. Anything from the header to the cat can not be replaced unless it fails. If it fails, you must replace it with OEM or equivalent. There's even a form you have to file with the government when you do this. Following the law, those of you with high-flow cats are just as illegal as those running catless, since you replaced a functioning cat with a non-OEM equivalent part.

 

I see the logic, what a bummer. Is that a local execution or is that the federal reading? My magnaflow high flow cat came with a form that the installer filled out for you. I installed mine though.

 

It's the Federal reading. I'm not trying to get into this arguement, just wanted to make sure that fact was clear.

 

you get high off unburnt fuel is what you get

 

Honestly i have no intention on running catless. I just don't think its a completely stupid idea, that's my opinion. I'm in no way saying you're wrong just defending my position. I think i'm done with this thread because it seems like some people are starting to get a bit too into it.

 

I always wondered about the emission laws over in the US because here in the Bahamas, there are no emission laws. If there are, they aren't enforced by any means. You can gut everything out of your exhaust and it will still pass inspection once it isn't outrageously loud or overly annoying. Even then, depending on what mood the guy is in doing the inspection, they will just pass it. I once had an RX-7 when I was 17 and back then,. having a loud exhaust was the in thing and all I had for an exhaust was straight pipes from the manifold back...No cat, no resonator and used "glass packs" which are basically resonators without really any restriction for mufflers! The thing was extremely loud and annoying (didn't do anything for power either but what did I know ) but the car passed inspection. I think the majority of street performance cars around here run catless and is usually the first thing gutted. Just to show how funny this country is, seat belts don't even have to be worn here! There was supposed to be a law passed, but it never went through so you can drive without a seat belt here. The max speed limit anywhere here is only 45 mph, but still...Only those that choose to wear them do. I guess every country has it's thing

 

That's why we have a pollution problem. It shouldn't matter if it's a law or not. Other countries will eventually step up and make laws, but just because your car doesn't pollute as much as another doesn't give you the right to pollute more. This isn't an equal rights movement or anything. I don't agree with the pollutant credit my country uses to allow our big polluters to buy the rights to pollute more from other companies. It does limit the pollutants somewhat, but it encourages the worst of the offenders to maximize profits throught buying credits rather than developing ways to lower emissions. Same thing going on in China. It's cheaper to pollute than to not pollute. If we as the US, with all of our laws and regulatory bodies, can't control ourselves enough to keep something as simple as a catalytic converter on our cars how do we expect a country like China to step up to the plate? Forget global warming, because the pollution will kill us before the ice caps melt.

 

This has gone wayyyyyy off topic lol

 

^^ its just comical now...

 

LOL! Well, back to the topic, I removed my cat and didn't notice that much of a difference other than the car felt a bit smoother. Couldn't say I noticed any increase in actual hp (definately no loss though) and suprisingly wasn't any louder.

On a side not, I guess the Bahamas doesn't worry too much about "cat's" being removed as there aren't that many performance cars on the road to talk about anyways and with that being said, total population of the entire Bahamas is under 300,000 people so the few that do run catless probably doesn't cause much of an issue. I could see it being a problem in the US though if it were allowed as one city in pretty much any given state has more people than our entire country. Just my 2 cents..