wow! good point, evo boy keep the informed input coming!

on a side note, i think for the price diff between an evo and a RA, the cash would be more than enough to get an RA to 13's /wout FI. I mean, really...$12,000! I dont think that many bolt-ons exist, yet! and for that cash, we already know its enuf to get an RA way below 13 if you do want to turbo. Just ask turbo tech PR (although I have NO IDEA how much he spent on getting 500whp and low 11's, im sure $12k would do 13's if not 12's).

nah, who am i kidding? no car on earth could EVER do 13 without at least a huge hood vent and a 2' spoiler

 

i havent read on this in awhile....
silverevo....the sc on your gsr on put 55 on top of stock?...rrms stage two kit puts down almost twice that ....with that sage 2 kit a stock 120hp lancer jumps to 215-230 depnding on other mods and internals...btw rrm's turboed lancer is a 2.0 not a 2.4(RA's have the 2.4)...all we can do now is wait till someone does it... we know that the RRM Ralliart will not be N/A but as stated one of their adopted cars will be

blackevovii....you scurred? that a RA will be able to keep up with you n/a?....if your gonna put something in....explain why...othwerwise just vote....

 

I don't know for sure what the power output was for my Integra GS-R, but the advertised gains from JRSC are around 55 hp. That would be 225 at the flywheel. It seems pretty close to what the car put down based on the 14.0 @ 99 mph...... The Lancer does have a bigger engine so I can see where the power gains could be larger, plus the turbo kit will do a lot more power than the Roots blower. Don't forget, the GSR Vtec is slightly less than 1.8 liter ......
Anyway, I do not doubt that the RA could be made to go 13s without a blower. What I said all along is that it wont be done cheaply or easily with just a few bolt-ons....

 

I agree that it won't be cheap... probably around 4-5k after it's all said and done. But to have an NA doing that would be outstanding. Then if AEM comes out with a stand alone for it i'd put that in with a 55wet system(another 2k w/tuning) then you should bust into low 13's and possibly even high 12's on slicks. That would be enough for me. A 13sec daily driver is hard to beat... add the NOS to kick anyone else who might have a slight edge. Either way it is just another route to go other than boosting.

 

It's possible, but it could end up costing far more than that and you could still be chasing those numbers. I spent over$6K in mods for my EVO (courtesy Boost Solutions) and I can barely get 13.0 @ 107 mph..... Granted, there is something not right about my engine, but that might well have been caused by the modificator. Still, it's good to remember that $4-$5K is not really a whole lot of cash when it comes to buying parts, having them installed (correctly) and tuning the car properly. Hell, just the slicks and the right wheels can set you back nearly $1K.......... Add a standalone with options and a set of gauges and you are already $3K in the whole, and you have not even installed them or tuned the car!! The tuning and dyno time will eat another $500 - $1K.
And you have not even touched the engine!!!

 

I thought the evo VIII ran 13.3-13.8 stock! you're doing 13 flat after 6 grand of upgrades? you mustve spent half of it on your stereo!

 

he said something wasnt right with his engine

 

Yeah right, and the N/A Lancer stock runs 14's ..... Most stock EVOs or with exhaust and drop-in filter run in the mid to high 14's in the Atlanta Dragway. With boost control and some kind of fuel manager plus intake and exhaust, they can run in the 13's and even the 12's depending on the driver. The most extensively modified EVOs have run high 11's once or twice, but generally they run 12's

My mods are very extensive and very expensive. They certainly do not include the "stereo"..... For some reason my car won't take timing advance too well so I run a modest 19 pounds of boost. Even with 260whp in a DD dyno (supposedly equals around 300 whp in a dynojet) I have yet to break the 13 second time (I'm close, but no cigar).

I'm saying that it could take a lot of money to get the RA into the 13's without F/I or NO. Even with lots of $$ there is no guarantee. Like I said, Boost Solutions sold me and installed around $6-$7K worth of mods. Obviously they missed something or screwed up big time, but still I'm not unique and this scenario is not as uncommon as you might think..... Try it, you might prove me wrong or maybe prove me right. All it takes a wad of cash and a call to Boost Solutions.

 

I was just playing man , 13 is very respectable.

 

silverevo you running on pump gas....cus i see a lot signautes (or used to) saying 13.6 bone stock....or 13.9 bone stock

 

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...ght=bone+stock

heres the link...hell even a few people are pulling off 13's some guy hit a 13.1 bonce stock...so i guess its all in the launch....a 60ft with 1.74 is really good....with a 60ft time like that...the RA will srely hit 13's

 

I Know, I read those posts and sigs as well..... I don't understand while some ppl are running those kninds of numbers while others don't. My guess is that the word "stock" has different meanings for different ppl. I can tell you for a fact that it's a rare "stock" EVO that will run under 14 seconds at the commerce dragstrip. Actually even modded EVOs will run high 13s low 14's.......

 

I've watched the SCC mag drivers put stock evo's into 13.2-13.4's consistantly. It's all about the driver and location. Altitude/temp have a lot to do with it as well.

If an RA couldn't hit 13's with about 4-5k in it's all the driver. The car has a massive torque curve that is unlike any i've ever seen on a 4cyl. Have a little faith and understanding... don't be the guy saying i dumped 6k in mine and can't do that as your a different car all together. After all i was able to make the 100whp lancer run low 13's on crappy toyo tires with a 2.0-1.9 60' times. Why can't i make the ralliart do way better for cheaper... with about a 1G of mods it almost equals a non-intercooled 2.0 lancer.

Don't forget that i pulled a 13.8 on slicks with a NON-Intercooled lancer. The RA will be there trust me.

 

If an Evo is running mid to high 13's stock, something is seriously wrong with either the car, or the driver, or both. There are literraly hundreds of Evo's running int he 13's stock...I don't understand this assertion.


Percy

 

As a comparison, what are other cars running at that track? ARe 2003 Cobras running high 13's for instance? Don't get it. Tons of COMPLETELY STOCK Evos in CA. have run int he 13's, this means no exhaust, no re-flash, no MBC, no nothing. It is no mystery. With the HP and torque, AWD launch, a 13+ second run in an Evo is no major feat.

Percy