RalliArt Test Drive (Merge)
altima V6 has been tested to do 0-60 in 5.7 1/4 mile in 14.2 tested by road and track, and the camry can also go 0-60 in 5.7 seconds. what's sad is these cars can not only toast the ralliart, but can almost keep up with the EVO in a str8 line. from a roll, they might win...that's sad.
Also performance parts are much cheaper for those cars and everywhere... the only real advantage of evo and ralli is AWD so if nissan or honda made some AWDs the what for mitsu?
I think mitsu will come back when the current upper management all die off..
You are wrong.
2008 Honda Accord Coupe (V6) 0-60mph in 5.9 sec
2008 Toyota Camry XLE 0-60mph in 6.1 sec
2008 Nissan Altima Coupe 0-60mph 5.9 sec
I just do not really see anything special about a $30,000 car with these numbers (Ralliart) I think that for once a car should include all the goodies for a flat rate. This isn't selfish considering many used to. If this car had a price tag of say $27,000 new and came with HID's AND Recaros then I would be all over it. However it does not offer that.
2008 EVO X GSR MSRP: $31883 (basic model, however still includes the recaros and xenons because it's an EVO)
2009 Ralliart w/ Recaros/HID's is just a hair below $30,000
2008 Honda Accord Coupe (V6) 0-60mph in 5.9 sec
2008 Toyota Camry XLE 0-60mph in 6.1 sec
2008 Nissan Altima Coupe 0-60mph 5.9 sec
I just do not really see anything special about a $30,000 car with these numbers (Ralliart) I think that for once a car should include all the goodies for a flat rate. This isn't selfish considering many used to. If this car had a price tag of say $27,000 new and came with HID's AND Recaros then I would be all over it. However it does not offer that.
2008 EVO X GSR MSRP: $31883 (basic model, however still includes the recaros and xenons because it's an EVO)
2009 Ralliart w/ Recaros/HID's is just a hair below $30,000
I think the RA is uniquely slotted into the high 20's price point. I think Mitsu has a crisis brewing with differentiating the market with the GSR and a fully loaded RA, but has hit a homerun because it's even offering the twin-clutch, awd, turbo technology in such a competitive market.
Subaru, Mazda, and even VW need to take the RA seriously. I like it. I give it 20 opinion points...
Subaru, Mazda, and even VW need to take the RA seriously. I like it. I give it 20 opinion points...
Absolutely -- if you think of the Ralliart as a race car, then it's a pale shadow of the Evo, but if you think of it as a daily driver, it's a really fun car, which is why I'm buying one. Fact is, an Evo should be embarrassing to drive around town, if you're over 25, while a Ralliart will not be so ridiculously showy.
Absolutely -- if you think of the Ralliart as a race car, then it's a pale shadow of the Evo, but if you think of it as a daily driver, it's a really fun car, which is why I'm buying one. Fact is, an Evo should be embarrassing to drive around town, if you're over 25, while a Ralliart will not be so ridiculously showy.

I'm 37 and i feel all kind of things, but not being embarrassed
You should try to drive around with the Evo, to see what is actually feels like it to drive around town
Subaru, Mazda, and VW as brands...? Not the top of the automotive world my friend. They scrape and claw for sales with the rest of them. The RA at its current price is a direct competitition with a GTI with same tranny, except the GTI doesn't have AWD, nor the coveted sub 6 second to 60 magazine times.
ANYONE stealing sales from your bread and butter IS a threat...
ANYONE stealing sales from your bread and butter IS a threat...
Subaru, Mazda, and VW as brands...? Not the top of the automotive world my friend. They scrape and claw for sales with the rest of them. The RA at its current price is a direct competitition with a GTI with same tranny, except the GTI doesn't have AWD, nor the coveted sub 6 second to 60 magazine times.
ANYONE stealing sales from your bread and butter IS a threat...
ANYONE stealing sales from your bread and butter IS a threat...
Look at a Consumer Reports and get back to me...VW>=<Mitsu to the average consumer across the model line. A well contented car for the $ will sell. Being that Mitsu hasn't had a car in this slot since a Galant VR-4, there really is no recent history to guage how this car will be received. If Mitsu markets it as a cheap alternative to an MR, I'm sure many will buy it, regardless of the
on the trunk...
on the trunk...
Subaru, Mazda, and VW as brands...? Not the top of the automotive world my friend. They scrape and claw for sales with the rest of them. The RA at its current price is a direct competitition with a GTI with same tranny, except the GTI doesn't have AWD, nor the coveted sub 6 second to 60 magazine times.
ANYONE stealing sales from your bread and butter IS a threat...
ANYONE stealing sales from your bread and butter IS a threat...
I agree that Mazda and Subaru need to take note but at the same time, they weren't the ones falling behind in the first place. Subaru has had the WRX since 03 and it's made a major name for itself; everyone knows what the car is and that it is fast. Mazda did very well with the MS3 and it shook up the market with its low price and stellar performance. Mitsubishi on the other hand gave us the previous Ralliart, a FWD, sub 200 HP sedan. It wasn't even in the same league. For us canucks, Mitsubishi literally made nothing that could compete. Only now do they actually offer an alternative. I highly suspect that they will have a hard time etching out a market because of this. The Evo isn't a massive seller (most people don't know what it is) and the Ralliart will likely follow in its footsteps. Mitsubishi needs to get off its *** and market the cars heavily. They need to instruct the dealerships to be more welcoming and considerably more cooperative. I know a few people who strongly considered an Evo but simply would not put up with the BS some dealers are pulling (ie. requiring a 5000$ deposit just to test drive the car).
Whoever said that the Ralliart will be a stealthy car is very naive. Yes it will be less blatant than the evo but it still has vents in the hood, large wheels, an aggressive front end and in some cases an outrageous paint color.
I completely agree ambystom01... I have seen a considerable increase in Mitsu's marketing skills through their recent commercial influx. It seems this year they are really putting forth the effort to attract new customers. I would think that they would have inserted the new RA into one of their spots though, considering they have the '09 lancers in 2 & an MR in 1. I hope for Mitsu's sake, that they do not delay the release of the RA, like they did to the MR, or at least bump up the model year, unlike the MR.
I completely agree ambystom01... I have seen a considerable increase in Mitsu's marketing skills through their recent commercial influx. It seems this year they are really putting forth the effort to attract new customers. I would think that they would have inserted the new RA into one of their spots though, considering they have the '09 lancers in 2 & an MR in 1. I hope for Mitsu's sake, that they do not delay the release of the RA, like they did to the MR, or at least bump up the model year, unlike the MR.
With the gas crunch there focus is more on the fuel efficient models they offer rather than a turbo model such as the RA. I think there entire marketing strategy is in need of a serious overhaul to compete with the likes of Subie and Mazda. The proof, as Amby said, is on the street in the form of MS3's and WRX's in numbers that Mitsu can only dream of.






