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Old Nov 26, 2008 | 08:25 PM
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It's the way you come off. Everything is all just speculation unless its the Car and Driver review, R&T review, etc. You take advantage of all opportunities to put the car down.
So we should discount every single review that has come out about the Ralliart and ignore it's obvious faults? Funny how when a bad review/comparison comes out involving the WRX or the STI, people can't be fast enough to jump on it but when someone simply states what everyone can clearly see, it's a negative attribute.
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Old Nov 26, 2008 | 08:28 PM
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I don't understand what you are getting at? How many people that buy these cars race them? If you want to race your car you made a poor choice with all the cars in that comparison as you have to at least step up to EVO or STI.
I don't understand the point of yours, I'm sure a Camry V6 or V6 Accord is a very comparable daily driver but I have yet to here someone cross shop a Ralliart or a WRX against them. If you're argument is simply about daily driving, buy a damn Civic where you get better gas mileage, cheaper insurance and perfectly adequate performance for an A to B car. A to B cars don't get car guys talking.
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Old Nov 26, 2008 | 08:34 PM
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That would put it over the other stockers.
So you want a modded car to compete with stock cars? Do you also like boxing matches where the stronger man has to tie one hand behind his back?
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Old Nov 26, 2008 | 08:37 PM
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By the way in defense of the RA, just in terms of 1/4 mile performance, it finishes tied for third with the cobalt SS at 14.2. It is the second to last trap speed though. So it is NOT terrible. Just more expensive. It needs the 5 speed manny! I may have to wait and see if any rumors leak out on the upcoming car show circuit.

Edmunds claimed earlier that it would have a manual trans in 2010.
I thought the SS was second or maybe third in 1/4 time? The R & T test shows a 13.9.
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Old Nov 26, 2008 | 08:39 PM
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Is there even a tuned Ralliart out there? Didn't think so, so the accusations are just stupid. No one knows what the turbo is capable of, or even the injectors/fuel pump, etc.
Let's use logic here, the Ralliart isn't going to break the basic laws of physics. The turbo isn't gigantic, it appears to be a TD04-15T, not a big turbo by any stretch. This means HP numbers aren't going to be fantastic but torque numbers should be strong.
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Old Nov 26, 2008 | 08:46 PM
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Ambystom, you have no life. You just made 5 replies in a row about a car you don't even like . . .
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Old Nov 26, 2008 | 08:49 PM
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Yeah because posting on a car forum takes a whole lot of time.
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Old Nov 26, 2008 | 09:02 PM
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Also i think Mitsu should bring back the 9 YES with detune engine in manual weighing around 30K lbs to fight the new WRX lol
I don't think it'd be very good...
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Old Nov 26, 2008 | 09:25 PM
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Ambystom, you have no life. You just made 5 replies in a row about a car you don't even like . . .
Lol how does posting 5 replies on a car forum mean you have no life? As you can tell Amby likes a good argue and likes to make valid points. Since you only have 9 posts and simply came on to EvoM to attack him. I don't think you have a life at all.
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Old Nov 27, 2008 | 01:50 AM
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After stepping back from the situation w/ 151 in my hand and reading all the posts i have come to realize the secret message that generates so much hate here......manual transmission. I'm sure if it had a 5-speed there would be no beef and everyone would be happy. So why don't we all write Mitsu and tell them "manual tranny please so we can close this thread".
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Old Nov 27, 2008 | 04:09 AM
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Originally Posted by boondoc
After stepping back from the situation w/ 151 in my hand and reading all the posts i have come to realize the secret message that generates so much hate here......manual transmission. I'm sure if it had a 5-speed there would be no beef and everyone would be happy. So why don't we all write Mitsu and tell them "manual tranny please so we can close this thread".
Go back a few decades and see how sure everyone was that front-wheel drive would never fly with the North American car-buying public. Thing is, there isn't just one monolithic group or car owners, and Mitsubishi must be reasonably confident that the TC-SST has a market. After all, there are always some people who are willing to give change a chance... there are plenty of cars out there already for the traditionalists and Luddites. The TC-SST is a gen-X/gen-Y transmission, while the old-style manual is very firmly a baby-boomer transmission (and a WWII-era transmission, and a depression-era transmission, and a roaring-twenties transmission, and a ...)

Before the traditionalists scream bloody murder for my daring to give the TC-SST a chance, I'm not claiming that change is always an improvement, but where's the harm in living a little?
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Old Nov 27, 2008 | 04:40 AM
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Go back a few decades and see how sure everyone was that front-wheel drive would never fly with the North American car-buying public. Thing is, there isn't just one monolithic group or car owners, and Mitsubishi must be reasonably confident that the TC-SST has a market. After all, there are always some people who are willing to give change a chance... there are plenty of cars out there already for the traditionalists and Luddites. The TC-SST is a gen-X/gen-Y transmission, while the old-style manual is very firmly a baby-boomer transmission (and a WWII-era transmission, and a depression-era transmission, and a roaring-twenties transmission, and a ...)

Before the traditionalists scream bloody murder for my daring to give the TC-SST a chance, I'm not claiming that change is always an improvement, but where's the harm in living a little?
WOW, FWD, when it came out 20 years I predicted the downfall of the American auto industry. Fast forward. It is in deep ****. No performance minded person wanted FWD, but the minions were sold they were better for snow and I also think they were cheaper to make. No drive shaft, rear diff etc. Soon all cars had the same look, same engine, and same crappy sales. The Japanese built BETTER FWD cars and the rep went from there continually hurting the big three. Why do you think there has been the attempted resurgence of RWD. Caddy, G8, Charger, Challenger, Camaro. BMW never went FWD. Performance cars are RWD or AWD. And all of them have 5-6 speed manuals. Technology has allowed FWD to be better but still less effective. The reason you feel the manual is old style is because most cars are auto and few learn to drive a stick.
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Old Nov 27, 2008 | 04:43 AM
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Originally Posted by midwestX
0-60 in < 5sec is also coming with a void in warranty for the clutch .

Also i think Mitsu should bring back the 9 YES with detune engine in manual weighing around 30K lbs to fight the new WRX lol
The stock WRX is less than 5 seconds 0-60....4.7. The clutch warranty is voided at birth?
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Old Nov 27, 2008 | 04:47 AM
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Originally Posted by EsRt2evo
Is there even a tuned Ralliart out there? Didn't think so, so the accusations are just stupid. No one knows what the turbo is capable of, or even the injectors/fuel pump, etc.
No because guys like you won't even take your cars to places like TTP when you live right there. There must not be any interest in tuning the RA. The 09 WRX has been out about 7 weeks and are already have Stage 2 level tunes done. The RA has been out a good 2 months and NO ONE has even been dynoed yet!!! MEMO, there ain't gonna be any aftermarket, if no one pushes for it. If you don't go to tune shops they aren't gonna be coming up with parts, tunes etc.

Are you afraid of what you'll find.
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Old Nov 27, 2008 | 04:54 AM
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No because guys like you won't even take your cars to places like TTP when you live right there. There must not be any interest in tuning the RA. The 09 WRX has been out about 7 weeks and are already have Stage 2 level tunes done. The RA has been out a good 2 months and NO ONE has even been dynoed yet!!! MEMO, there ain't gonna be any aftermarket, if no one pushes for it. If you don't go to tune shops they aren't gonna be coming up with parts, tunes etc.

Are you afraid of what you'll find.

Thats right! Who's going to be the guinea pig.
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