EcuFlash 09 Ralliart tables Vs. Evolution 10 tables
hi Gunzo, so i am not sure if i understand, so we are dealing with ecu v. tcu, engine power cut v. tansmission clutch disengagement. so that really gives us a lot of combinations of what and when to control
since getrag built the tranny, they can customize the gear ratios, shift points based on certain parameters and i would assume that the shift points would be what is controlled by the TCU (including driving mode programs) so lets assume the end goal here is to protect the tranny from excessive torque,
If ecu reads torque (airflow) then it can either force engine to go into limp mode or send request to TCU for tranny gear to disengage,
so which is it and when does it happen, and of course how can we change it get beyond this limit?
i spoke to somone at cobb and they say that you can raise the threshold by controling the airflow limit table ( i assume that its in the ECU)
what say you?
thank you
since getrag built the tranny, they can customize the gear ratios, shift points based on certain parameters and i would assume that the shift points would be what is controlled by the TCU (including driving mode programs) so lets assume the end goal here is to protect the tranny from excessive torque,
If ecu reads torque (airflow) then it can either force engine to go into limp mode or send request to TCU for tranny gear to disengage,
so which is it and when does it happen, and of course how can we change it get beyond this limit?
i spoke to somone at cobb and they say that you can raise the threshold by controling the airflow limit table ( i assume that its in the ECU)
what say you?
thank you
Last edited by pltek; Dec 23, 2008 at 09:29 AM.
hi Gunzo, so i am not sure if i understand, so we are dealing with ecu v. tcu, engine power cut v. tansmission clutch disengagement. so that really gives us a lot of combinations of what and when to control
since getrag built the tranny, they can customize the gear ratios, shift points based on certain parameters and i would assume that the shift points would be what is controlled by the TCU (including driving mode programs) so lets assume the end goal here is to protect the tranny from excessive torque,
If ecu reads torque (airflow) then it can either force engine to go into limp mode or send request to TCU for tranny gear to disengage,
so which is it and when does it happen, and of course how can we change it get beyond this limit?
i spoke to somone at cobb and they say that you can raise the threshold by controling the airflow limit table ( i assume that its in the ECU)
what say you?
thank you
since getrag built the tranny, they can customize the gear ratios, shift points based on certain parameters and i would assume that the shift points would be what is controlled by the TCU (including driving mode programs) so lets assume the end goal here is to protect the tranny from excessive torque,
If ecu reads torque (airflow) then it can either force engine to go into limp mode or send request to TCU for tranny gear to disengage,
so which is it and when does it happen, and of course how can we change it get beyond this limit?
i spoke to somone at cobb and they say that you can raise the threshold by controling the airflow limit table ( i assume that its in the ECU)
what say you?
thank you
It was ASSUMED to be getrag ..
I think you understand correctly ..
TCU (tranny) sends a signal to the ECU (Engine) for shift .. ECU references a table and sends back a YES /NO signal ..
If a NO signal is sent .. the gearbox goes into protection mode and frees the clutch .. the engine freerevs and trigger a transmission slip code ..
I hate this current ECU as it has multiple layers of protection .. The airflow limit which Cobb mentioned is 1 just of many .. once they exceed that .. it'll trigger another set of codes ..
The big question is still WHO BUILT THE TRANSMISSION ..
It was ASSUMED to be getrag ..
I think you understand correctly ..
TCU (tranny) sends a signal to the ECU (Engine) for shift .. ECU references a table and sends back a YES /NO signal ..
If a NO signal is sent .. the gearbox goes into protection mode and frees the clutch .. the engine freerevs and trigger a transmission slip code ..
I hate this current ECU as it has multiple layers of protection .. The airflow limit which Cobb mentioned is 1 just of many .. once they exceed that .. it'll trigger another set of codes ..
It was ASSUMED to be getrag ..
I think you understand correctly ..
TCU (tranny) sends a signal to the ECU (Engine) for shift .. ECU references a table and sends back a YES /NO signal ..
If a NO signal is sent .. the gearbox goes into protection mode and frees the clutch .. the engine freerevs and trigger a transmission slip code ..
I hate this current ECU as it has multiple layers of protection .. The airflow limit which Cobb mentioned is 1 just of many .. once they exceed that .. it'll trigger another set of codes ..
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The big question is still WHO BUILT THE TRANSMISSION ..
It was ASSUMED to be getrag ..
I think you understand correctly ..
TCU (tranny) sends a signal to the ECU (Engine) for shift .. ECU references a table and sends back a YES /NO signal ..
If a NO signal is sent .. the gearbox goes into protection mode and frees the clutch .. the engine freerevs and trigger a transmission slip code ..
I hate this current ECU as it has multiple layers of protection .. The airflow limit which Cobb mentioned is 1 just of many .. once they exceed that .. it'll trigger another set of codes ..
It was ASSUMED to be getrag ..
I think you understand correctly ..
TCU (tranny) sends a signal to the ECU (Engine) for shift .. ECU references a table and sends back a YES /NO signal ..
If a NO signal is sent .. the gearbox goes into protection mode and frees the clutch .. the engine freerevs and trigger a transmission slip code ..
I hate this current ECU as it has multiple layers of protection .. The airflow limit which Cobb mentioned is 1 just of many .. once they exceed that .. it'll trigger another set of codes ..
We have a number of Ralliarts in house weekly Richard. We'll get you your info asap.
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