09 RA for first vehicle
We're not beating it into the ground, we're constantly being forced to reiterate our points/define our points because people are openly attacking us. Funny how people are fine with their own point being said a million times but get pissy when someone else actually responds to comments.
Your problem is the way you respond to people on a forum is inappropriate and rude. Calling m story "STUPID" is not a construtive post at all.
The right thing to do if you felt my post was misleading in any way or lacking appropriate information you could have restated my message in a different manner.
You need to work on your netiqutte skills. No offense.
We're not beating it into the ground, we're constantly being forced to reiterate our points/define our points because people are openly attacking us. Funny how people are fine with their own point being said a million times but get pissy when someone else actually responds to comments.
We are just giving him information. We are not telling him he neeeds to mod it were just saying that if he is into performance he should eventually mod it when he gets the experience he needs. The same way you can punch 120mph on a ralliart is the same way you can punch 120 on a impreza non turbo. I just takes the RA less time to get there.
We should be discussing its merits along with everything else that is good about the car. The fact that it is highly rated for safety,it has great performance and it gets decent gas milage for a sporty car PLUS it AWD is good enough for me to buy the car at 18.
Your problem is the way you respond to people on a forum is inappropriate and rude. Calling m story "STUPID" is not a construtive post at all.
The right thing to do if you felt my post was misleading in any way or lacking appropriate information you could have restated my message in a different manner.
You need to work on your netiqutte skills. No offense.
The right thing to do if you felt my post was misleading in any way or lacking appropriate information you could have restated my message in a different manner.
You need to work on your netiqutte skills. No offense.
Last edited by ambystom01; Apr 22, 2009 at 07:49 AM.
We are just giving him information. We are not telling him he neeeds to mod it were just saying that if he is into performance he should eventually mod it when he gets the experience he needs. The same way you can punch 120mph on a ralliart is the same way you can punch 120 on a impreza non turbo. I just takes the RA less time to get there.
If you drive a car daily, then it's a "daily driver". That doesn't mean that it has to be practical, fuel efficient, comfortable, etc. So, for someone who only likes to turn fast, stop hard, accelerate quickly, then an Evo, corvette, and even a porsche can be a "daily driver". My point? Unless you need mammoth ground clearance, seating for 20, cupholders that will fit a gallon jug, or just haul a lot of garbage around, then an R/A will be just fine on a daily basis.
Also, it isn't too much of a car. Sure, it can accelerate pretty quickly, and handle good - but these attributes can also apply to safety. It's better than driving a '52 chevy with the shocks blown out. Also, a RWD car like a Mustang GT or Camaro SS is MUCH MORE dangerous than the R/A. YOU can get ANY car into a bad predicament. Yeah, lot of teens in sports cars are idiots, but I'm of the mindset that not everyone is the same... So why ruin it for those people?
Also, whats all this nonsense about maintenance costs? Besides fuel, rubbers, and oil, you shouldn't be paying for any service as it should be covered under warranty. I have a feeling that a well cared for R/A will give you trouble free operation well beyond the 3/36k, anyways.
I still back up my recommendation that you take some racing/performance driving classes, so that at least if you are an idiot on the streets, you know how to drive properly. I'm not just suggesting this for people with sports cars, as anyone who drives can benefit from the knowledge and experience.
Get yourself an R/A. IMHO, they're totally worth the money (from a hardware standpoint).
Also, it isn't too much of a car. Sure, it can accelerate pretty quickly, and handle good - but these attributes can also apply to safety. It's better than driving a '52 chevy with the shocks blown out. Also, a RWD car like a Mustang GT or Camaro SS is MUCH MORE dangerous than the R/A. YOU can get ANY car into a bad predicament. Yeah, lot of teens in sports cars are idiots, but I'm of the mindset that not everyone is the same... So why ruin it for those people?
Also, whats all this nonsense about maintenance costs? Besides fuel, rubbers, and oil, you shouldn't be paying for any service as it should be covered under warranty. I have a feeling that a well cared for R/A will give you trouble free operation well beyond the 3/36k, anyways.
I still back up my recommendation that you take some racing/performance driving classes, so that at least if you are an idiot on the streets, you know how to drive properly. I'm not just suggesting this for people with sports cars, as anyone who drives can benefit from the knowledge and experience.
Get yourself an R/A. IMHO, they're totally worth the money (from a hardware standpoint).
BINGO!!! Madcows just shut everyone up. Thank you Sir.
My post clearly did not encourage street racing infact it depicts a dangerous situation when street racing that is why I don't have points for it.
If I said Street racing is cool and I do it all the time THEN you have the right to say it is a stupid post.
It is stupid to tell someone that their post is stupid that I have a right to say because it is
and it does not answer the OP's question. According to you it's a stupid story but I dont see anyone else complaining.
and I wouldn't be talking about posting inccorrect information Mr. INSURANCE GUY..
not by me, he didn't come off as a pompous *** like you did (and have done many many times in other threads) I have been on this board for a month or so, and you are the only person I see over and over and over again getting into arguments. I think you thrive on it. You seem to like to try to impress people or something. I never hear you admit you made even a tiny mistake, you always try and make yourself right. I PROVED the insurance line and still you didn't acknowledge you made a miscalculation (you said check a GTS and Ralliart and I bet you'll see a huge (this is off the top of my head) difference. I proved from toronto where he is you were completely wrong. I wish we had Ignore buttons on here lol.
I said he can mod it with a few bolt ons and a tune how is that incorrect info and I'm not going to qoute my posts you have all the time in the world to go back and check my posts.
My post clearly did not encourage street racing infact it depicts a dangerous situation when street racing that is why I don't have points for it.
If I said Street racing is cool and I do it all the time THEN you have the right to say it is a stupid post.
It is stupid to tell someone that their post is stupid that I have a right to say because it is
and it does not answer the OP's question.
According to you it's a stupid story but I dont see anyone else complaining.
and I wouldn't be talking about posting inccorrect information Mr. INSURANCE GUY..
If I said Street racing is cool and I do it all the time THEN you have the right to say it is a stupid post.
It is stupid to tell someone that their post is stupid that I have a right to say because it is
and it does not answer the OP's question. According to you it's a stupid story but I dont see anyone else complaining.
and I wouldn't be talking about posting inccorrect information Mr. INSURANCE GUY..
See my post above, when I ran the numbers, insurance was more expensive for the Ralliart. It is also only one point in the "why a Ralliart is a bad first car" argument.
My problem with amby is that he writes arrogrant and rude comments and thinks he knows everything about the ralliart 09 when he doesn't even own one. Hes discouraging people from buying the ralliart on a mitsubishi network.
I'm not the only person hes attacked there are many others on this forum that will tell you.
Words like stupid and idiotic are considered FLAMING if you ask me it causes friction among the community and if it doesn't stop I will report it.
If you don't believe me go to the RA vs World forum where he keeps pissing on the ralliart and calls peoples comments idiotic.
If he doesn't have something nice to say then he doesn't have a right to say it. It is a rule on this forum not to say things in a degrading manner.
Thats all I have to say.
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I think we need to all cool down a little, but this thread shouldn't just be locked. Whenever discussions become heated everyone wants to lock the thread, but thats usually when some good information gets shared.
To be honest, I have not seen a post where Amby has been really unfair to anyone. Blunt, yes, but certainly not unfair. The whole entire point of this section of evom is to discuss, argue, and share information. When people bring their feelings or wrong information into the discussion, they deserve to get called out. There is a difference between attacking people and attacking their points. Just because they are blunt and to the point when the disagree does not mean that they don't like you or are trying to hurt you. The spreading of false info is the plague of this forum.
Also, it's a little irritating when someone tells me that I'm beating a dead horse with my point and that it is repetitive. What is repetitive is the attacks I'm getting. Safety statistics, monetary costs, and most of all common sense are all on my side here. It doesn't make sense for an 18 year old preparing for college to own a 25k car. If that point is lost on you, it's not even worth it for me to explain why.
I'll share my example to further my point. I am 23. I just graduated from the U of Wisconsin- Madison last year. I am back in DC working. I have the option of going through with a ma/phd program. I had no idea I was interested in doing this until early this year. I had always thought I was going to law school. Now, If I had bought a 25k car when I was 18-20, I would have to worry about paying that off and getting a long term job instead of getting back into school so I can make real money and make my career coincide with my beliefs. The whole point of college is to find out where you are going; I don't want to take out a massive loan on a something like a car that essentially limits my options.
I think we need to all cool down a little, but this thread shouldn't just be locked. Whenever discussions become heated everyone wants to lock the thread, but thats usually when some good information gets shared.
To be honest, I have not seen a post where Amby has been really unfair to anyone. Blunt, yes, but certainly not unfair. The whole entire point of this section of evom is to discuss, argue, and share information. When people bring their feelings or wrong information into the discussion, they deserve to get called out. There is a difference between attacking people and attacking their points. Just because they are blunt and to the point when the disagree does not mean that they don't like you or are trying to hurt you. The spreading of false info is the plague of this forum.
Also, it's a little irritating when someone tells me that I'm beating a dead horse with my point and that it is repetitive. What is repetitive is the attacks I'm getting. Safety statistics, monetary costs, and most of all common sense are all on my side here. It doesn't make sense for an 18 year old preparing for college to own a 25k car. If that point is lost on you, it's not even worth it for me to explain why.
I'll share my example to further my point. I am 23. I just graduated from the U of Wisconsin- Madison last year. I am back in DC working. I have the option of going through with a ma/phd program. I had no idea I was interested in doing this until early this year. I had always thought I was going to law school. Now, If I had bought a 25k car when I was 18-20, I would have to worry about paying that off and getting a long term job instead of getting back into school so I can make real money and make my career coincide with my beliefs. The whole point of college is to find out where you are going; I don't want to take out a massive loan on a something like a car that essentially limits my options.
mtag your comments were never called idiotic or stupid thats why you don't feel that way.
Anyhow I would really like to hear from the person who started this thread what they want in a car.
I can assure you that will get rid off any ignorance on my part.
Anyhow I would really like to hear from the person who started this thread what they want in a car.
I can assure you that will get rid off any ignorance on my part.


