09 RA for first vehicle
My driving habits are fine I never crashed a vehicle EVER. In the 10 years that I've been driving an automobile.
My record is as clean as it can be.
I pay 165 per month for full cover on my RA and a base 2002 lancer in New York State.
which is one of the highest insurance states in my country.
So how do you like them ****in apples amby boy.
My record is as clean as it can be.
I pay 165 per month for full cover on my RA and a base 2002 lancer in New York State.
which is one of the highest insurance states in my country.
So how do you like them ****in apples amby boy.
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10 years from now you will still be on this forum trying to prove that young people should not get performace cars.
LOL you are unique amby you really are something special. This whole forum should give you a round of applause.
for your senseless efforts.
LOL you are unique amby you really are something special. This whole forum should give you a round of applause.
for your senseless efforts.
And you'll still be street racing and telling people that their souped up econobox is basically a sports car. When you've been here longer than a month, you can criticize other members who have actually contributed.
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Its all about how mature you are as a driver. Some kids (teenagers like me) can handle driving an extremely capable car. Some obviously can not. My dad was a bit worried at the fact that i was getting a car with soo much capability. But he trusts me enough to let me drive it.
If higher performance cars are statistically overrepresented in accidents, the age isn't necessarily an issue since it's the car that's the problem.
http://www.cheapmotorinsurance.info/...insurance.html
Now then, if the OP is already a high risk because of his age, sex and inexperience, why add to it by introducing a higher risk vehicle?
http://www.cheapmotorinsurance.info/...insurance.html
Now then, if the OP is already a high risk because of his age, sex and inexperience, why add to it by introducing a higher risk vehicle?
No its not, statistically performance cars are more likely to be involved in an accident. Logically, accident risk is the summation of individual risks. A young driver is a higher risk driver, a male driver is a higher risk driver, etc.
That performance cars have an increased accident rate? The link states it clearly, as have other sites I posted.
BTW did some calculations based on some numbers derived from DOT.
270,000 teenagers a year are injured in some form of accident.
14% of US population are teenagers.
303,824,640 US population
14% times Population yields= 42535449
Divide Total injured by total teenagers = .006%
Sooo.... by that logic you are MUCH more likely to meet a teenager that drives safely, or at least accident free, then not.
270,000 teenagers a year are injured in some form of accident.
14% of US population are teenagers.
303,824,640 US population
14% times Population yields= 42535449
Divide Total injured by total teenagers = .006%
Sooo.... by that logic you are MUCH more likely to meet a teenager that drives safely, or at least accident free, then not.
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How long did it take you to get 10+ posts. So far all of your post have been senseless arguements. I think you get off on arguing with people for some reason it seems to arrouse you.
And yes that is right my pretty little souped up 4 wheel drive is the SH*T.
Some of you all need to relax. You're getting a bit worked up.
Your math is flawed. While 14% of the US might be teenagers, 100% of teenagers do not drive. Varies by state, but most teens 13-15 don't drive. That said, the statistics clearly point out that drivers age 15-20 are the most dangerous drivers. Teenagers are involved in 14% of all crashes and young people (16-24) are responsible for more traffic deaths than any other age group.
http://www.iii.org/media/hottopics/i.../olderdrivers/
BTW did some calculations based on some numbers derived from DOT.
270,000 teenagers a year are injured in some form of accident.
14% of US population are teenagers.
303,824,640 US population
14% times Population yields= 42535449
Divide Total injured by total teenagers = .006%
Sooo.... by that logic you are MUCH more likely to meet a teenager that drives safely, or at least accident free, then not.
270,000 teenagers a year are injured in some form of accident.
14% of US population are teenagers.
303,824,640 US population
14% times Population yields= 42535449
Divide Total injured by total teenagers = .006%
Sooo.... by that logic you are MUCH more likely to meet a teenager that drives safely, or at least accident free, then not.
http://www.iii.org/media/hottopics/i.../olderdrivers/
Once again not arguing whether or not they are the most dangerous drivers. I'm arguing how likely it is that every teenager is a bad driver. Sure my numbers don't take into account how many are driving currently, based on ages 15-20. Even subtracting that away i would venture to guess the percentage of those who get into accidents is less when contrasted to those who don't. Therefore your far more likely to meet a "safe" teen-aged driver.
EDIT:
Even if you guys REALLY want to lowball me, assume that there is only One million teen-aged drivers (lol), that would still be 27% in accidents. Sooo... yeah definitely more likely to meet a teenager who drives "safely". Those statistics are true, of the accidents that happen a year teenagers represent the greatest danger, but how much percentage of the population gets into an accident in a year? This is what happens when people follow exactly what they read and don't THINK. This "all teenagers are bad drivers" thing your all clinging to, is called a paradigm. Most commonly considered something which hinders forward and critical thinking.
EDIT:
Even if you guys REALLY want to lowball me, assume that there is only One million teen-aged drivers (lol), that would still be 27% in accidents. Sooo... yeah definitely more likely to meet a teenager who drives "safely". Those statistics are true, of the accidents that happen a year teenagers represent the greatest danger, but how much percentage of the population gets into an accident in a year? This is what happens when people follow exactly what they read and don't THINK. This "all teenagers are bad drivers" thing your all clinging to, is called a paradigm. Most commonly considered something which hinders forward and critical thinking.
Last edited by Metall1ca; Apr 23, 2009 at 12:32 AM.
Everybody pushes their cars, especially if they're the kind of person to ask advice on a car forum. The big risk with RAs, Evos, STIs, WRXs, etc. is that they let you push them very very hard before they let go. If you've never dealt with a slide or understeer or whatever and it happens at 60 MPH vs. 30 MPH in another car, you're in for a world of hurt. Think of how many "I crashed my Evo" threads have appeared on Evom in the last 6 months. 90% of the time people are driving on the street when it happens and it's a matter of a lack of experience, they go into a slide, don't know what to do and do the wrong thing. Starting with a slower, less performance minded car allows you to gain that experience and learn what to do in adverse situations before you step into a car that will bite your face off for making a mistake or mask your mistakes until it's too late. If you want a great example of this, look at supercars. If you make a mistake in a Viper, it lets you know right away and you pay dearly for it.
MR2 TURBO IN CHICAGO WINTER
Puts you in your place real fast
Some of you all need to relax. You're getting a bit worked up.
Your math is flawed. While 14% of the US might be teenagers, 100% of teenagers do not drive. Varies by state, but most teens 13-15 don't drive. That said, the statistics clearly point out that drivers age 15-20 are the most dangerous drivers. Teenagers are involved in 14% of all crashes and young people (16-24) are responsible for more traffic deaths than any other age group.
http://www.iii.org/media/hottopics/i.../olderdrivers/
Your math is flawed. While 14% of the US might be teenagers, 100% of teenagers do not drive. Varies by state, but most teens 13-15 don't drive. That said, the statistics clearly point out that drivers age 15-20 are the most dangerous drivers. Teenagers are involved in 14% of all crashes and young people (16-24) are responsible for more traffic deaths than any other age group.
http://www.iii.org/media/hottopics/i.../olderdrivers/