09 RA for first vehicle
Let's see here,
1. The car isn't a "daily driver", that's what the Lancer was designed for. I love how people try to dress the car in every costume out there. When they want a daily driver, they label it a daily driver, when they want a track car, they label it a track car, when they want a canyon carver, they label it a canyon carver. The Ralliart was designed to compete with the WRX and fit between the base, economical Lancer and the ***** to the walls Evolution.
2. The car isn't cheap.
3. The car isn't fuel efficient.
4. Insurance will kill you (18 with a 237 HP turbocharged car, good luck).
5. You're buying into an expensive money pit, imagine what will happen when you want to move out and you're faced with running a car like a Ralliart (fuel, maintenance, insurance).
If you want a good starter car, the GTS is a hell of a bargain. It has decent power, a lot of fun features and it's economical.
1. The car isn't a "daily driver", that's what the Lancer was designed for. I love how people try to dress the car in every costume out there. When they want a daily driver, they label it a daily driver, when they want a track car, they label it a track car, when they want a canyon carver, they label it a canyon carver. The Ralliart was designed to compete with the WRX and fit between the base, economical Lancer and the ***** to the walls Evolution.
2. The car isn't cheap.
3. The car isn't fuel efficient.
4. Insurance will kill you (18 with a 237 HP turbocharged car, good luck).
5. You're buying into an expensive money pit, imagine what will happen when you want to move out and you're faced with running a car like a Ralliart (fuel, maintenance, insurance).
If you want a good starter car, the GTS is a hell of a bargain. It has decent power, a lot of fun features and it's economical.
So thats about $1100 a month just for you car and rent.
You living with anyone? That's some cheap *** rent (which is good).
That's like pay for a decent full-time job.
How do find find time for another job, for your other bills?
and school? how many classes?
geez, man it seems you got your hands a tad full.
You living with anyone? That's some cheap *** rent (which is good).
That's like pay for a decent full-time job.
How do find find time for another job, for your other bills?
and school? how many classes?
geez, man it seems you got your hands a tad full.

Well... I may stand corrected- someone can theoretically actually do it. I still think, however, that its ill-advised to say the least. 19k loan in school for something as unnecessary as a sports car just spells trouble. No offense to you though. I'm quite impressed you've taken on responsibility like that. If it were me though, I just wouldn't do it.
Why am I getting harassed for recommending a suby? This thread is about finding a good car for the OP, not just promoting a particular brand. Subaru is an awesome brand and their older base models absolutely play with the older base lancers like they were toys. Not to mention AWD, a nicer interior, and a similar price tag. Here, I'll make you feel better- I think the new STI looks like crap

Also, this is all ON-TOPIC because it relates directly to people new to car ownership and the processes associated with it. It may not all be directed are particularly the Ralliart, but it can be directed toward the Ralliart's price tag and the financial situation most young people find themselves in. In fact, conversations like this are far more beneficial to would-be car buyers than mundane discussions of "Civic vs Lancer... who would win!"
If you want a fun sporty ride thatt sits with the ***** out EVO and runs better numbers then a stock evo then GET A RALLIART.
If you just want a car to commute back and forth then don't even get a GTS get a corolla, even a TC.
I telling you the RA is the best of both worlds its perfect for a guy going into college.
gas wise
Ralliart = EPA city/hwy fuel econ 17/25 mpg
GTS = EPA city/hwy fuel econ 21/28 mpg
not a big diffence at all.
If you have the money then you don't have a problem. you can walk out of the dealer in your new RA for about 230 ish a month with 8,000 down. (best bang for your buck)
insurance for a new car no matter which one is going to be high but if you want it then go for it.
GTS = 160 hp RALLIART =240 hp (MUCH MORE DECENT POWER) + Recaro package and if you ever want to mod it will be cheaper to mod ra then GTS.
If you just want a car to commute back and forth then don't even get a GTS get a corolla, even a TC.
I telling you the RA is the best of both worlds its perfect for a guy going into college.
gas wise
Ralliart = EPA city/hwy fuel econ 17/25 mpg
GTS = EPA city/hwy fuel econ 21/28 mpg
not a big diffence at all.
If you have the money then you don't have a problem. you can walk out of the dealer in your new RA for about 230 ish a month with 8,000 down. (best bang for your buck)
insurance for a new car no matter which one is going to be high but if you want it then go for it.
GTS = 160 hp RALLIART =240 hp (MUCH MORE DECENT POWER) + Recaro package and if you ever want to mod it will be cheaper to mod ra then GTS.
If you want a fun sporty ride thatt sits with the ***** out EVO and runs better numbers then a stock evo then GET A RALLIART.
If you just want a car to commute back and forth then don't even get a GTS get a corolla, even a TC.
I telling you the RA is the best of both worlds its perfect for a guy going into college.
gas wise
Ralliart = EPA city/hwy fuel econ 17/25 mpg
GTS = EPA city/hwy fuel econ 21/28 mpg
not a big diffence at all.
If you have the money then you don't have a problem. you can walk out of the dealer in your new RA for about 230 ish a month with 8,000 down. (best bang for your buck)
insurance for a new car no matter which one is going to be high but if you want it then go for it.
GTS = 160 hp RALLIART =240 hp (MUCH MORE DECENT POWER) + Recaro package and if you ever want to mod it will be cheaper to mod ra then GTS.
If you just want a car to commute back and forth then don't even get a GTS get a corolla, even a TC.
I telling you the RA is the best of both worlds its perfect for a guy going into college.
gas wise
Ralliart = EPA city/hwy fuel econ 17/25 mpg
GTS = EPA city/hwy fuel econ 21/28 mpg
not a big diffence at all.
If you have the money then you don't have a problem. you can walk out of the dealer in your new RA for about 230 ish a month with 8,000 down. (best bang for your buck)
insurance for a new car no matter which one is going to be high but if you want it then go for it.
GTS = 160 hp RALLIART =240 hp (MUCH MORE DECENT POWER) + Recaro package and if you ever want to mod it will be cheaper to mod ra then GTS.
Check the insurance for a Ralliart and compare it to a GTS for an 18 year old male. I bet you the difference is staggering, it certainly is here.
Stop giving terrible advice, this isn't about which car is the better performer, it's about which car is better for a new, young driver. An 18 year old going to university doesn't need power, he needs reliability, fuel efficiency, safety and fun. A GTS is plenty.
Let's see here,
1. The car isn't a "daily driver", that's what the Lancer was designed for. I love how people try to dress the car in every costume out there. When they want a daily driver, they label it a daily driver, when they want a track car, they label it a track car, when they want a canyon carver, they label it a canyon carver. The Ralliart was designed to compete with the WRX and fit between the base, economical Lancer and the ***** to the walls Evolution.
2. The car isn't cheap.
3. The car isn't fuel efficient.
4. Insurance will kill you (18 with a 237 HP turbocharged car, good luck).
5. You're buying into an expensive money pit, imagine what will happen when you want to move out and you're faced with running a car like a Ralliart (fuel, maintenance, insurance).
1. The car isn't a "daily driver", that's what the Lancer was designed for. I love how people try to dress the car in every costume out there. When they want a daily driver, they label it a daily driver, when they want a track car, they label it a track car, when they want a canyon carver, they label it a canyon carver. The Ralliart was designed to compete with the WRX and fit between the base, economical Lancer and the ***** to the walls Evolution.
2. The car isn't cheap.
3. The car isn't fuel efficient.
4. Insurance will kill you (18 with a 237 HP turbocharged car, good luck).
5. You're buying into an expensive money pit, imagine what will happen when you want to move out and you're faced with running a car like a Ralliart (fuel, maintenance, insurance).
I'm sorry Amby but that first statement borders on moronic lol. Just because a Lancer is a DD doesn't mean another upper level car isn't a daily driver. A Ralliart is NOT a sports car, A sporty car yes but not a sports car. The fact the Ralliart has AWD imo makes it more of a DD then Lancer, at least for Canada. It's a good handling car with AWD, insurance isn't going to be much more then a similar level car. I pay about $8 per month more then my 04 Tiburon (and I increased my coverage or it would've been the same or less). Gas isn't great, but it's not THAT bad (unless your driving like a maniac all the time). Maintanance is going to be on par, maybe a bit more then most other $40k cars (Canadian money here). If you polled most people here I bet MOST would say it IS their DD (If you have enough money to have a RA as a toy your most likely going to opt for the Evo X.
I think the moding part was already mentioned in an earlier post. stock evos run 13.6ish stock RAs run 14.0 - 14.1s .4ish seconds from an evo MR.
WRX is not at all close to the STI stock.
If you can do it DO IT you will be so satisfied I'm telling you.
WRX is not at all close to the STI stock.
If you can do it DO IT you will be so satisfied I'm telling you.
Yeah for where? So many factors go into it that it's ridiculous. I have mine here at James Madison University (Yes it is a 4-Year :GASP
and I have never had anything happen to it, don't see how that's even a concern.
and I have never had anything happen to it, don't see how that's even a concern.
Really, so a sub-5 second 0-60 isn't close to the STI time of 5.X? Moreover, a modded Ralliart isn't an Evo, it doesn't run with Evos, it's still just a modded Ralliart.


