09 RA for first vehicle
Okay fair enough, but to state that it's only young people that are the cause and should see this restriction is ridiculous. Yes younger people (I'm 19 so not trying to sound condescending) do tend do get overconfident, showoffish and plain stupid frequently but that is life, plain and simple. Unfortunately it's how some people learn, making the mistake first. If you put this "restriction" you'd probably just leave the person pent-up and leave them even more money to get an even faster car (I know it was just an off the cuff idea but still). We all make mistakes, some dumber than others, and unfortunately cars and driving is one facet of live that gives little in the way of room for error if you screw up badly.
I'm not going sit here and blabber on about safety. That's the first advice the state gives you when you apply for a drivers permit no need to reiterate the same thing people have said on this forum either.
My advice to you is buy the RA mod the crap out of it.
AMS full set up and run 12.9's all day at the track on saturdays and sundays.
Most importantly get comfortable with the car stock. Then do your mods.
Have fun with the car thats why you are paying 24+K for it.
My advice to you is buy the RA mod the crap out of it.
AMS full set up and run 12.9's all day at the track on saturdays and sundays.
Most importantly get comfortable with the car stock. Then do your mods.
Have fun with the car thats why you are paying 24+K for it.
I beg to differ on most dangerous group, gotta say older drivers are worse. There is just less of them. Unfortunately we are the most dangerous group due mostly to quantity, which is unfortunate for reasonable drivers such as myself and thousands of others out there. As for the drinking point, I'm sure many of those countries also let people drink younger so that's a bit of a conflict. I personally wished I could have voted younger, because i did follow politics and was reasonable, but do realize that others didn't know jack squat.
Just to be clear Amby, I'm not disagreeing with you per say, I'm more just frustrated that others in a sense ruin it for me and others like me. Especially when we are lumped in with them. I got backed into when i had my RSX, tinted 15% windows and bright blue. Cops showed up and of course they blamed me when my car was basically stopped (i was backing out and was in mid-transition to D) when an Escalade piled into my car. It was an older woman (Late 40's) who was clearly not looking (I promise you i looked the whole way backing up, always do, it felt like i got hit by a train) and the cop took her side. It's just frustrating for me is all.
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What separates man from animal is simply mans willingness to take risks and venture out to learn new things.
Thats why we go moutain climbing, skiing, surfing, hence MOTORSPORTS follows the same theory.
This my friend the best advice I can give you.
Thats why we go moutain climbing, skiing, surfing, hence MOTORSPORTS follows the same theory.
This my friend the best advice I can give you.
Some advice from someone who's totalled a car or two in my first five years driving: Save yourself some repair bills, or insurance bills, or let's face it: upkeep bills and start out with something slower. I say "slower" these days and I don't even mean slow anymore, I just mean lower risk. Get a four door Civic Si, or a GTI, etc., have fun and stay safe.
I beg to differ on most dangerous group, gotta say older drivers are worse. There is just less of them. Unfortunately we are the most dangerous group due mostly to quantity, which is unfortunate for reasonable drivers such as myself and thousands of others out there. As for the drinking point, I'm sure many of those countries also let people drink younger so that's a bit of a conflict. I personally wished I could have voted younger, because i did follow politics and was reasonable, but do realize that others didn't know jack squat.
Actually animals do take risks, and that's a crappy piece of advice to a new driver. Taking stupid risks is just that, stupid. What makes us human is our ability to reason (among other things) including reasoning that in some situations, the risks outweigh the benefits. Life is about minimizing the risks, not running blindly into them. I do all of the things you mentioned and I take all the precautions I can.
Last edited by ambystom01; Apr 20, 2009 at 10:19 PM.
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Look at the stats, young people are the most dangerous group and it's not a matter of numbers. The things I listed have to do with maturity, experience as well as the social attitude of the behaviour. In some countries, drinking is socially acceptable at a young age and children grow up knowing it is OK in moderation. In regards to driving, I agree with the idea that new drivers should be limited until they have more experience.