And what I'm saying it that #3 is so small of a factor to be insignificant. As I said before, I drive right by the very road where he apparently crashed and have watched many a car drive without issue. The road is clear, this was a speed issue. I suspect that even if there wasn't a single piece of gravel on the road, he would still have crashed, why? Because it sounds as if he lost control we before he got to the shoulder given that the shoulder isn't wide and he managed to flip the car (meaning he had to be moving sideways at a pretty fast speed).

 

i disagree it would take a GREAT amount of speed to take ur car sideways without gravel. There was no moisture on the ground either. i have taken my RA on some pretty hard turns on DIRT going at higher then normal speeds granted there were no curb to flip on but the fact is that i was perfectly under control. You know the road i dont but when i think of an on ramp i see a wide lane marked with white lines with the far sides with gravel on them.. even in maryland where we dont get that much snow at all u will find gravel on sides of roads that if driven on at fast speeds u will lose control.. the gravel is a factor.. bottom line!
The pittsburgh steelers didnt win the superbowl just because there offense scored points. They won cause 1.there offense scored points 2.there defense kept the other team from scoring and 3.there kicker was able to kick 2 field goals and 3 extra points. Now based on this im not saying because of there kicker they won the game.. im saying its a factor to the win.. there offense and defense was much more important as deciding factors of the game
This being said all 3 factors contributed to the crash.. the 3rd factor being small but without the contribution there might not have been an accident.. speed is the greatest factor, he lost control of the vehicle going out of a turn, this put him off the road onto the shoulder were it is VERY POSSIBLE for gravel to b laying.. simple.. i wasnt there i could b wrong, the street sweepers could have missed a huge section which would make u completely wrong.. only the OP knows.. so there IS NO ARGUEMENT HERE

 

Don't waste your breath. Amby is ignorant.

"And yet I was right, you'd think it would get tired, you know, being right all the time but strangely enough, it's still satisfying."

"Yes, I'm a troll with 20000 posts, 6 years of experience, etc. "

ambystom01 ==

 

i dont think amby is ignorant.. hes smart, he just doesnt know when to say, "ur right" and it makes threads like these pointless because of the constant arguement.. i would back down if i was wrong but im not.. simple

 

Ya I didn't user the correct word there. Looks like I'm the ignorant one with that comment as I always have used that word incorrectly o.O

Wasn't trying to say he is uneducated, he clearly knows his stuff. But like you said, he is refusing to back down on this one. This is like trying to debate an issue with my ex just because she hates if she is wrong >_>

 

To further prove my point, I drove on the very road where he crashed. It is virtually impossible for gravel to have caused this accident. The only gravel is on the very outside of the road in a roughly 1 foot wide strip. He must have already been going sideways before he hit the gravel thus he would have crashed even if it wasn't there.

 

Yep I sure am ignorant what with the fact I drove on the very road he crashed on and actually live in the same city but no, you're right, someone living in Orlando knows more about it than I do.
You're welcome to suggest to the actually established (ie. those who didn't join last month) that I'm a troll but as another Ralliart member can tell you, it won't go well.
It sucks that he had to crash like this, hell it sucks to crash period, but he should be thankful that all it cost him was a car and a bump on the head, hopefully he learned something too.

 

Sorry to hear on what happened OP. The most important thing is you are alive.

One question though, with accidents like that. Do the insurance pay you the whole amount of the car? And do your insurance rates go up?

 

They never pay for the entire price of the car. They pay the appreciated value. That is why dealers try to sell you GAP insurance, it covers the difference.

 

GenetiX403, Sorry to hear about the crash. Glad to hear that u only have a concussion, could have been much worse. Lesson learned I hope and GL with insurance and getting a new car and hope you feel better soon.

BTW don't know if anybody asked this cause I didn't feel like reading all the arguing, but how well did the protect you in the crash? Would u say after being in an accident in it that it is a really safe car?

It depends on who u have insurance through. With my ICBC coverage, for an extra $5 a month u can get the new car replacement coverage. On brand new cars, if u total them in the first 5 years they will replace it with the equivilent model from that year. Ex: I total my lancer in 3 years, they will replace it with a 2012 lancer equivilant to my GTS and my rates don't go up. It all depends on what coverage u get.

 

I have that as well. Maybe it's just available through Canadian insurers? I would think anyone would take it if it were available to them. $60/year for brand new car (or total price you paid for the vehicle).

 

some people sure like to argue. agree to disagree, perhaps?

 

Well considering I know I'm right, I agree to agree.

 

Wouldn't have happened to you if you weren't driving like an ***. Thanks for raising all our insurance rates.

Glad you're ok.

 

It not only depends on the coverage but where you live. If you live in Canada I wouldn't recommend giving ins advise. I'm licensed in 16 different states and not one of them is identical. In fact most are comepletely different in not only the way you're rated on but also what you're allowed to be covered for. I won't begin to guess at the Canadian laws, but I can tell you with 100% certainty, unless your insurace company has an accident forgivness program (which is usually only avail at a higher premium or with a certain tenure with the company) your rates will ALWAYS go up. Even in a "not at fault" accident.

Just the way it is.