Really pumped about 2011 RA!
A friend of mine always used to say, the thing with money is, you can't take it with you.

He did die on one of his 4 yamaha R1's... so I don't know how sound that advice is...
I know you Canadians don't have much vehicles up there but here driving through NYC, i REALLY don't want to be bother with a M/T. We all have our reasons to just leave it be, am i saying manual's are obsolete? Hell no, i just have to drive through traffic a good amount and don't feel like dealing with the hassle. Maybe as a second car I would buy a car with a manual.
Anyway as i see it, we're just "man" enough to drive two clutches instead of one.
(Warning it was a JOKE don't get your panties in a twist).
Anyway as i see it, we're just "man" enough to drive two clutches instead of one.
(Warning it was a JOKE don't get your panties in a twist).
If I had a manual, my left calf would be the size of my right thigh.
I can ride my bicycle 40 miles round trip to work faster than I can drive. At least this way, both my calves are the same gigantic size.

If I was smart enough to be in the development of the new Evo 10; one of the things I associate rally racing (WRC) with is the freaking sweet as a cool waterrmelon on a summers day semi auto-hydraulic-straight cut geared quaife transmission. One of my thoughts would be; how could we put this into one of our cars...make it streetable. Looks like the answer is the twin clutch transmission.
If mitsubishi is around long enough for the 11 or 12, I am sure, if they stick with the technology that they will get it right.
ACD technology comes to us via the same route as the dual clutch transmission.
the AYC in the 7 8 and 9 is laggy and is shut off by the tuners of the ACD ecus.
the ACD in the 6 is laggier than the 7 and etc.
Somehow mitsubishi got a heavier and slightly bigger 10 to handle better than a 9 and for all intents have perfected or greatly improved the electronically controlled center diff technology.
I expect that the transmission will follow a similar path...great idea but young.
true, very true. But I figure it to kinda be like this...(also killing an oh so dead thread)
If I was smart enough to be in the development of the new Evo 10; one of the things I associate rally racing (WRC) with is the freaking sweet as a cool waterrmelon on a summers day semi auto-hydraulic-straight cut geared quaife transmission. One of my thoughts would be; how could we put this into one of our cars...make it streetable. Looks like the answer is the twin clutch transmission.
If mitsubishi is around long enough for the 11 or 12, I am sure, if they stick with the technology that they will get it right.
ACD technology comes to us via the same route as the dual clutch transmission.
the AYC in the 7 8 and 9 is laggy and is shut off by the tuners of the ACD ecus.
the ACD in the 6 is laggier than the 7 and etc.
Somehow mitsubishi got a heavier and slightly bigger 10 to handle better than a 9 and for all intents have perfected or greatly improved the electronically controlled center diff technology.
I expect that the transmission will follow a similar path...great idea but young.
If I was smart enough to be in the development of the new Evo 10; one of the things I associate rally racing (WRC) with is the freaking sweet as a cool waterrmelon on a summers day semi auto-hydraulic-straight cut geared quaife transmission. One of my thoughts would be; how could we put this into one of our cars...make it streetable. Looks like the answer is the twin clutch transmission.
If mitsubishi is around long enough for the 11 or 12, I am sure, if they stick with the technology that they will get it right.
ACD technology comes to us via the same route as the dual clutch transmission.
the AYC in the 7 8 and 9 is laggy and is shut off by the tuners of the ACD ecus.
the ACD in the 6 is laggier than the 7 and etc.
Somehow mitsubishi got a heavier and slightly bigger 10 to handle better than a 9 and for all intents have perfected or greatly improved the electronically controlled center diff technology.
I expect that the transmission will follow a similar path...great idea but young.
The TC-SST is nothing like the rally gearboxes used in WRC. It's basically a modern answer to the automatic.
As far as I know, the transmissions in world rally car-class cars are automated sequential dog boxes (they may even have clutch pedals). However, I believe that F1 cars, and some LeMans-grade machinery use twin clutch auto manuals. Regardless, to quote you, they're all "like a manual with an automatic shifter". A standard automatic with a torque converter and planetary gear set is significantly different than any of those. Automated manuals perform better than a standard manual, and that's why they're used in the top levels of racing. Oh, and Jeremy Clarkson sure seemed to have fun in the MR.
Once again, race cars aren't really relevant. WRC cars have wiring harnesses that cost 50000$+and the transmissions are likely worth 100000$+ given that the sequential shifter alone is worth something like 20000$ and needs servicing after a few events, if it makes it that far. F1 cars have very different operating conditions and priorities, nobody cares how they feel, performance is the only consideration. Standard manuals are still used in racing but that's likely due to regulations. For a street car, none of this matters. Do I care if an F1 car can shift in 1/10000 of a second? No because I'm not driving an F1 car nor am I being paid money to come in first place, I'm cruising around town and I vastly prefer that third pedal.
yeah but still, you have the money to make the payments. I can't even freaking afford my insurance on my ES!
Yes, unfortunately all Evo manual trannys come with weak clutches from the factory... but fortunately there are great twin disc upgrades available for any m/t car, I got my Exedy twin brand new for under $1450... not so many options (yet anyway) for SST, so its kind of a limiting factor if you have big power goals for the car. I actually think it would be nice to have paddle shifting for driving on a track, but thats not something I do very often and for street driving I prefer a manual, plus I don't think it would hold up for a long time power-wise where I am at with my IX, or with the power level I would want to bring a X up to.



