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Old May 12, 2011 | 12:48 AM
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Any difference in intake/engine sounds?
I can hear the turbo spool a little louder. Other than that everything is the same.
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Old May 12, 2011 | 03:22 AM
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Just fyi the car did not require a tune.
I understand the benefits of making mods w.o needing a tune on a turboed engine. But the dyno difference between with a tune/w.o a tune would be cool too...
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Old May 12, 2011 | 03:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Jechttt
I understand the benefits of making mods w.o needing a tune on a turboed engine. But the dyno difference between with a tune/w.o a tune would be cool too...
Well, that just does not tell the whole story. Dyno gains with no tune only show gains not WHY gains were made. My point is that many intakes make power by "cheating" the maf sensor so it sees less air at any given rpm / load combination wich simply leans out the airflow and increases the boost a bit on an otherwise stock un-tuned car. Both of those things can be accomplished with a tune and since most of us will be tuned at some point.... that negates the reason for buying an intake.

IMO the only real way to test an intake is with pressure drop data AND dyno test data. I seriously doubt more than 1 or 2 companies even bother to test pressure drop (measure the difference between atmospheric pressure and pressure inside the intake) at various points along the intake path... without this data it is not possible to know what part o f the intake is a restriction and where to focus the efforts... if it is even needed in the first place.

In short if the pressure drop does not improve then the only gains are from messing with afr and or boost... not because the intake "flows" any better than stock.
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Old May 12, 2011 | 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Mad_SB
Well, that just does not tell the whole story. Dyno gains with no tune only show gains not WHY gains were made. My point is that many intakes make power by "cheating" the maf sensor so it sees less air at any given rpm / load combination wich simply leans out the airflow and increases the boost a bit on an otherwise stock un-tuned car. Both of those things can be accomplished with a tune and since most of us will be tuned at some point.... that negates the reason for buying an intake.

IMO the only real way to test an intake is with pressure drop data AND dyno test data. I seriously doubt more than 1 or 2 companies even bother to test pressure drop (measure the difference between atmospheric pressure and pressure inside the intake) at various points along the intake path... without this data it is not possible to know what part o f the intake is a restriction and where to focus the efforts... if it is even needed in the first place.

In short if the pressure drop does not improve then the only gains are from messing with afr and or boost... not because the intake "flows" any better than stock.
To be fair, with the AEM intakes on the 4B11T platform, wasn't them tampering with boost an expectation? I mean, really that's how the AEM CAI on the X makes its power, from the threads and tests I've read, not solely by removing restriction.
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Old May 12, 2011 | 07:19 AM
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On the bright side it looks like it replaces that stupid accordion inlet. That's a definite plus for less turbulence in the airflow at least.
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Old May 12, 2011 | 12:52 PM
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Alright,
Here are the #'s!
Car was dynoed stock except for Ultimate Racing Axel Back, HKS BOV & HKS Drop In Filter.



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Old May 12, 2011 | 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by 2muchboost
Just fyi the car did not require a tune.

really? they managed to make sure the MAF area was good to go? well good on aem i think that makes them the first intake to not need a tune for our car

also lets get a look inside the box
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Old May 12, 2011 | 02:55 PM
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wow ... nice number ... but ... wassup with that dip @ 4.8k ?
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Old May 12, 2011 | 03:29 PM
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is this a cold air intake system?
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Old May 12, 2011 | 04:01 PM
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Impressive results, very nice.
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Old May 12, 2011 | 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by initial_d2k
wow ... nice number ... but ... wassup with that dip @ 4.8k ?
Thats where the 50 shot of Nawwz comes in! lol

Im not sure what the dip is. Maybe the car is leaning out and pulling timing?
I think the dip is one of those things you get from installing an intake and not tuning it.
Im sure the dip will go away once I get a custom tune.

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Old May 12, 2011 | 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by tdotsnipe91
is this a cold air intake system?
The factory snorkel is still hooked up and functional so its getting cold air from there. Not sure if this would be classified as a true cold air intake since the filter is still in the engine compartment.
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Old May 12, 2011 | 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by 2muchboost
Alright,
Here are the #'s!
Car was dynoed stock except for Ultimate Racing Axel Back, HKS BOV & HKS Drop In Filter.
Are they going to provide boost and AFR plots as well?
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Old May 12, 2011 | 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Mad_SB
Are they going to provide boost and AFR plots as well?

Ill ask them.
That dyno sheet is all they sent me.
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Old May 12, 2011 | 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by 2muchboost
The factory snorkel is still hooked up and functional so its getting cold air from there. Not sure if this would be classified as a true cold air intake since the filter is still in the engine compartment.
thnx for the info lol regardless very nice and strongly considering it!
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