EVO or RA?
If I could do it all over again, I'd still choose the RA based solely on how I currently view the X.
I've test drove the X many times, both the GSR and MR. Considering I have a family and wanted a fast grocery getter for a decent price, I went with the RA. This is also the reason why I wanted the SST over the 5-speed, because of versatility. I don't have to teach my wife or anyone else not capable of driving a stick how to drive my car. I'd go with the MR if, as Exyia put it, it didn't create a strain on my finances. Sorry but I'd rather my family have a roof over there head, food on the table, and clothes on their back than have an expensive sports car. Based on affordability, the base RA was at my max limit for a new car.
Now, the RA does have the market support for modding and, as time progresses, I can toss a few bucks here and there to upgrade my car to how I want it to perform while trying not to break the bank. This forces me to do the research before buying parts.
If I was a financially savvy single guy looking for a fun car, well then my decision would be to chose the GSR, even though I really do wish they would transition to a 6-speed.
There are times where I catch myself browsing the internet looking at Evo X's wishing I did have the money to go with an MR but I'm fine with being a part of a uniquely small market. BTW, I also catch myself browsing the internet for GTRs and M3s. Doesn't mean I plan to buy one anytime soon but instead it's the curse of being a car enthusiast.
Some other things I'd like people to consider. If you plan to buy either the RA or X with no plans to mod, base your choice off what you plan to accomplish. As soon as modding becomes the focus, this is where you start looking at cost-effectiveness. Why take a car that's already a fine tuned machine off the lot and upgrade it's components? Once you start modding, this is where the performance differences between the RA and X start to narrow.
Remember, this is solely my personal opinion. Each person has their viewpoints and is rightfully entitled to disagree with me.
I've test drove the X many times, both the GSR and MR. Considering I have a family and wanted a fast grocery getter for a decent price, I went with the RA. This is also the reason why I wanted the SST over the 5-speed, because of versatility. I don't have to teach my wife or anyone else not capable of driving a stick how to drive my car. I'd go with the MR if, as Exyia put it, it didn't create a strain on my finances. Sorry but I'd rather my family have a roof over there head, food on the table, and clothes on their back than have an expensive sports car. Based on affordability, the base RA was at my max limit for a new car.
Now, the RA does have the market support for modding and, as time progresses, I can toss a few bucks here and there to upgrade my car to how I want it to perform while trying not to break the bank. This forces me to do the research before buying parts.
If I was a financially savvy single guy looking for a fun car, well then my decision would be to chose the GSR, even though I really do wish they would transition to a 6-speed.
There are times where I catch myself browsing the internet looking at Evo X's wishing I did have the money to go with an MR but I'm fine with being a part of a uniquely small market. BTW, I also catch myself browsing the internet for GTRs and M3s. Doesn't mean I plan to buy one anytime soon but instead it's the curse of being a car enthusiast.
Some other things I'd like people to consider. If you plan to buy either the RA or X with no plans to mod, base your choice off what you plan to accomplish. As soon as modding becomes the focus, this is where you start looking at cost-effectiveness. Why take a car that's already a fine tuned machine off the lot and upgrade it's components? Once you start modding, this is where the performance differences between the RA and X start to narrow.
Remember, this is solely my personal opinion. Each person has their viewpoints and is rightfully entitled to disagree with me.
Last edited by omegis; Feb 22, 2012 at 05:54 PM.
Well, there's your problem.
The real argument is this: Is a new RA better than a used Evolution X? That is a more fair question. Take finances out of the question. There are new RA's that break as are there used Evolutions with warranty still intact. Are the little nuances that make the RA more appealing for the price STILL appealing once price is taken out of the equation?
The real argument is this: Is a new RA better than a used Evolution X? That is a more fair question. Take finances out of the question. There are new RA's that break as are there used Evolutions with warranty still intact. Are the little nuances that make the RA more appealing for the price STILL appealing once price is taken out of the equation?
Last edited by NFSLancerRA; Feb 22, 2012 at 06:41 PM.
Yes, but if you were standing now on a car lot with $24k (say). You own neither car. Before you is placed an Evolution X GSR (or MR) with 30K miles and a new RA (Evolution still has 1 year warranty left), which would you choose?
I have a hard time trusting an SST I have no knowledge of the history on, but I love this transmission. Soooo I'm a bit biased. If South Coast would have been willing to sell one of the 14 NEW 2010 SE's they have in the back, I probably would have signed on the spot. Bastards.....
Even a used RA can be had for cheaper than a brand new RA. Could even say a used X can be had for cheaper than a new RA. So price comparison, hypothetically on a good day would look similar to this:
(Cheapest) Used RA - Used X - New RA - New X (Not so cheap)
My personal preference is to be the first owner of a car from Day 1 which is why I prefer new. It gives me the satisfaction of being in complete control of routine maintenance. Even with clean Carfax reports, I've had a horrible history with used cars. Now, many have purchased a used RA for far cheaper than what I paid new and haven't had any problems. In my situation, I was trading in an '09 GTS w/ CVT that I purchased new so it became necessary to purchase from a dealer. So of course, in the end there are personal conflicts between price and preference.
If price wasn't a factor, I'd choose the X SE or MR hands-down.
I have a hard time trusting an SST I have no knowledge of the history on, but I love this transmission. Soooo I'm a bit biased. If South Coast would have been willing to sell one of the 14 NEW 2010 SE's they have in the back, I probably would have signed on the spot. Bastards.....
Well, there's your problem.
The real argument is this: Is a new RA better than a used Evolution X? That is a more fair question. Take finances out of the question. There are new RA's that break as are there used Evolutions with warranty still intact. Are the little nuances that make the RA more appealing for the price STILL appealing once price is taken out of the equation?
The real argument is this: Is a new RA better than a used Evolution X? That is a more fair question. Take finances out of the question. There are new RA's that break as are there used Evolutions with warranty still intact. Are the little nuances that make the RA more appealing for the price STILL appealing once price is taken out of the equation?
finances > everything. don't care how badly you want ____ car. they are a (heavily) depreciating asset, you never know when you might have an unexpected financial hit (either with the car or elsewhere) and nothing pissed me off more when selling cars than seeing how thin 90% of the population stretched their monthly budget
no car is worth giving up most of your monthly budget's "buffer zone" (whatever you call it, just extra money) - and certainly not an Evo compared to an RA. hell, it drives me nuts seeing so many people on the RA forums struggle to keep a budget for new tires, dent repairs, or even SST fluid changes (that **** needs to be changed the first 5k miles)
I'm chinese, vocab isn't my strong point. you should see me at work (research lab) - I'll know how everything works, but not what it's called 
and to add to the point - price is not the only financial factor. incentives, interest rates, insurance, etc are all huge factors in buying a car.
and to add to the point - price is not the only financial factor. incentives, interest rates, insurance, etc are all huge factors in buying a car.
Though because I always like to be the under dog I would probably still do the ralliart. I just always like being different. When most people ask me what car is it, i say ralliart, they start to wonder what is a ralliart. lmao, I find it funny. I live in the desert and this car looks like it will do fine. Again, I would have to be in the situation to really know what I would choose.
strongly disagree
finances > everything. don't care how badly you want ____ car. they are a (heavily) depreciating asset, you never know when you might have an unexpected financial hit (either with the car or elsewhere) and nothing pissed me off more when selling cars than seeing how thin 90% of the population stretched their monthly budget
no car is worth giving up most of your monthly budget's "buffer zone" (whatever you call it, just extra money) - and certainly not an Evo compared to an RA. hell, it drives me nuts seeing so many people on the RA forums struggle to keep a budget for new tires, dent repairs, or even SST fluid changes (that **** needs to be changed the first 5k miles)
finances > everything. don't care how badly you want ____ car. they are a (heavily) depreciating asset, you never know when you might have an unexpected financial hit (either with the car or elsewhere) and nothing pissed me off more when selling cars than seeing how thin 90% of the population stretched their monthly budget
no car is worth giving up most of your monthly budget's "buffer zone" (whatever you call it, just extra money) - and certainly not an Evo compared to an RA. hell, it drives me nuts seeing so many people on the RA forums struggle to keep a budget for new tires, dent repairs, or even SST fluid changes (that **** needs to be changed the first 5k miles)