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Old Nov 9, 2010 | 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by stundies
Thanks Bryan.

I am a complete newbie at this and have necer attempted anything like this before so am a bit nervious. I am about to purchase the Tactrix Openport 2.0 and Mitsu Adapter + GST Boost Pill Assy. I have already downloaded and installed the ECUFlash Software and have downloaded the basemaps for Stock and Boost Pill maps.

One question before continuing with my purchases, we use 95RON (Standard Unleaded), 98RON (Super Unleaded) and can even get 99RON (TESCO Super Unleaded) fuel here in the UK. Will this effect any of the maps that are available?

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This is by far the best forum / community I have come across so far

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I have just tried opening ECUFlash and loading a map (Nothing is connected to the laptop or vehicle) but get the following message appear....

ECUFlash could not recognize this ROM image using any of the current definitions. You can choose one of the following options:-

Abort using this ROM image

Use wizard to create a new definition (NOT RECOMMENDED - FOR DEVELOPERS ONLY)

Am I being thick or is there a genuine problem?

Thanks for any help and support

Your EcuFlash simply doesn't have an XML to match the ROM image you tried. It sounds like you'll be going through the same learning curve I did. See here for some background on my initial steps...

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/09...f-dummies.html

Mine is 2009 Aus, with ROM ID 53610010. Yours will be different... but the steps are the same - find an XML from somewhere that makes EcuFlash happy, and go from there. Once you've read your ECU via OP2.0, you'll know for sure about the XML definition.

As far as I've read, your 99RON will line up nicely with US-speak "93 octane"... so go for the GST "93oct" maps. I've got 98RON here in Oz, which I'd seen described as equivalent to approx. "92.5 octane". Your Tesco fuel sounds perfect.


Originally Posted by stundies
Also any other advise anyone else can give me as I feel like I am going to do something that I will regret and mess it all up.
I know that feeling! Don't worry... the antidote is to:

- Be organised.
- Take small steps.
- Don't rush anything... double-check everything.
- Make a sensible plan going forward, and have a backout plan!
- Log 24x7 using OP2.0 (I'd also recommend something like EvoScan).
- Read, read, read. There's lots to learn... but it's all out there.
- If in doubt, ask!


One thing I'd recommend would be to leave the boost pill in the drawer for a week or two once it arrives! I did things in the following order:

(1) Read my ECU image, edited it to enable just the "mode23" logging, and reflashed it.

(2) Got familiar with logging on-road data from the ECU. Reading it, graphing, understanding it.

(3) Flashed GST "stock pill" base map. With no mechanical changes, it's trivial to switch back and forth from factory to GST map, should you wish to do so.

(4) Learned how to make small timing changes to the GST base map in response to observed knock.

(5) Fitted boost pill, and flashed GST "boost pill" base map. More logging, more learning.

(6) Took car to dyno shop and got the air/fuel ratios checked. Was all good.




Originally Posted by stundies
My other more expensive and limited option is to take it to a tuner 100 miles away and pay £650 (Approx $1050) for them to remap and dyno with custom map.
I've found the DIY road more rewarding.

My last car was shop-tuned with an interceptor - I had no no ability to change anything myself, no visibility, no logging... no fun. this EcuFlash stuff is a lot more involving!!

Less worry this way too, as I know how well the engine management is working.

There's nothing stopping you taking your car to a good dyno operator later, and asking them to fine-tune your maps. As you'll know a lot more then, you will be able to contribute, ask the right questions, etc. So you won't end up with an ECU "locked" to a specific shop. Furthermore, you'll be able to log and monitor at all times.





Rich
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Old Nov 10, 2010 | 04:42 AM
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richardjh . . . Thnaks ever sooo much, that has been a great help and will take your advice and study study study. It's great to know that the support will be there if needed, I can't thanks you all enough.

So all I need to do now is wait for the components to turn up, subscribe to Evoscan and I can start logging.

Hopefully happy days
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Old Nov 11, 2010 | 10:20 AM
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My car also received the P050B code this morning. I am using the 2009 + 93 Oct + upgraded pill, Map V2. I plan on flashing back to V1 Cold Region map for the time being.
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Old Nov 11, 2010 | 12:51 PM
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Why can't a 2010 tune be used on a 2011 ralliart, whats different about their ECU's
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Old Nov 11, 2010 | 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by MichaelRalliart
Why can't a 2010 tune be used on a 2011 ralliart, whats different about their ECU's
From what I have read in this thread, it's because every year has a different ROM ID associated with it.

I recently purchased a laptop for the sole reason of using GST's amazingly free base map (but don't tell my wife, she thinks the laptop was for her, )

Since I wanted to use the 2009-93oct-BP-V2 map, I am concerned with the over boost issues and cold start issues users are seeing with the V2 maps. So waiting to see that get straightened out, but I don't understand why those with the issue(s) aren't just reverting back to the V1 map but instead are actually reverting back to the stock pill and stock map for winter months?

I did read all 1,411 posts in this thread (took me an entire day!), and I don't believe there was cold start issues or over boosting issues with the V1 map
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Old Nov 11, 2010 | 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by RGRA
I did read all 1,411 posts in this thread (took me an entire day)
You must be OUT OF YOUR MIND.........
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Old Nov 12, 2010 | 04:43 AM
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Originally Posted by RGRA
From what I have read in this thread, it's because every year has a different ROM ID associated with it.

I recently purchased a laptop for the sole reason of using GST's amazingly free base map (but don't tell my wife, she thinks the laptop was for her, )

Since I wanted to use the 2009-93oct-BP-V2 map, I am concerned with the over boost issues and cold start issues users are seeing with the V2 maps. So waiting to see that get straightened out, but I don't understand why those with the issue(s) aren't just reverting back to the V1 map but instead are actually reverting back to the stock pill and stock map for winter months?

I did read all 1,411 posts in this thread (took me an entire day!), and I don't believe there was cold start issues or over boosting issues with the V1 map
I recommend going back to the V1 cold weather maps, I had no issues with that map last winter.
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Old Nov 12, 2010 | 06:25 AM
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Originally Posted by RGRA
From what I have read in this thread, it's because every year has a different ROM ID associated with it.

I recently purchased a laptop for the sole reason of using GST's amazingly free base map (but don't tell my wife, she thinks the laptop was for her, )

Since I wanted to use the 2009-93oct-BP-V2 map, I am concerned with the over boost issues and cold start issues users are seeing with the V2 maps. So waiting to see that get straightened out, but I don't understand why those with the issue(s) aren't just reverting back to the V1 map but instead are actually reverting back to the stock pill and stock map for winter months?

I did read all 1,411 posts in this thread (took me an entire day!), and I don't believe there was cold start issues or over boosting issues with the V1 map

So far from what ive read, people have not over boosted yet with the V2 mod, but people have thrown the P050B code. I have thrown this code 3 times myself, which is not biggie. I will be running the V2 throughout the winter. It gets -25 here at some points.
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Old Nov 12, 2010 | 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by RGRA
From what I have read in this thread, it's because every year has a different ROM ID associated with it.

I recently purchased a laptop for the sole reason of using GST's amazingly free base map (but don't tell my wife, she thinks the laptop was for her, )

Since I wanted to use the 2009-93oct-BP-V2 map, I am concerned with the over boost issues and cold start issues users are seeing with the V2 maps. So waiting to see that get straightened out, but I don't understand why those with the issue(s) aren't just reverting back to the V1 map but instead are actually reverting back to the stock pill and stock map for winter months?

I did read all 1,411 posts in this thread (took me an entire day!), and I don't believe there was cold start issues or over boosting issues with the V1 map
Where did you see people were actually overboosting?? The overboosting story is a ghost story. Every one is afraid of it but no one shown any proof of it!
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Old Nov 12, 2010 | 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by zx-319
Where did you see people were actually overboosting?? The overboosting story is a ghost story. Every one is afraid of it but no one shown any proof of it!
I totally agree. No one yet has proven they have over boosted in cooler weather.

Bryan himself has said there should be no problem wih the V2 map in the winter.

Therefore it should not be an issue.
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Old Nov 14, 2010 | 02:17 PM
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Strangely when we hit 52 degrees in our area i hit a definite 27 psi. It's still saved on my prosport boost gauge from then.
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Old Nov 14, 2010 | 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Tommy Di Cat
Strangely when we hit 52 degrees in our area i hit a definite 27 psi. It's still saved on my prosport boost gauge from then.
Is your RA 100% stock?

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Old Nov 14, 2010 | 04:01 PM
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Just an Evo X intercooler, bov, and UR pipes. Any ideas as to why? It hasn't been that temp again yet. I could send a log without the A/F if you like.
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Old Nov 14, 2010 | 05:47 PM
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Just an Evo X intercooler, bov, and UR pipes. Any ideas as to why? It hasn't been that temp again yet. I could send a log without the A/F if you like.
All those could increase the peak boost. Bov especially. These maps are for 100% stock RA's.

I can help you out if you send me some logs

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Old Nov 14, 2010 | 07:38 PM
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^Probably the BOV alone causing the increased peak! Those plastic jobbies are leaky!
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