Most likely a difference in load from the street to the dyno you where using. In all honesty it's the street you should be worried about.

The dynapak is a great dyno in that it has a ton of control, which means it can also be a bad dyno without correct control. A bit of them I have seen is a bit artificial in they way they load up the car on spool and peak torque...

btw, I love that you are so interested in logging and the operations of your RA.

- Bryan

 

More sluggish then the stock tune?

This interests me because my 2010 doesn't give me this feeling at all. In fact it gets up and goes just like my 2005 Evo MR.

- Bryan

 

Mine is a shocker. If I'm waiting to turn right (we drive on the left in Oz ) across a busy lane or two of oncoming traffic, I feel like I take my life in my hands every time.

When a decent gap comes, and I move off the brake onto the throttle, the car just sits there. Revs slowly come up, clutch slowly engages, then I get traction and it goes. I'd say there is at least a full one-second delay before there is any serious reaction from the car.

It may not be much, but a count of "one-one-thousand" in certain traffic situations is an eternity.

The alternatives aren't much better, ie. ride accel and brake, or brief throttle "blips" while left-foot braking. Seriously, do I have to ask my wife to left-foot-brake to join a main road? So that's not a solution.

I'm very keen to hear of your findings mentioned on the Evo X Forums in August...

> I'd also like to repost that this tweak is doing away with a "protection"
> feature for the SST trans. However, the more data and testing I can do,
> the more I can find a "happy medium" between drivability and protection.
>
> - Bryan

Or does this refer to something that has already gone into the GST-basemap-V2 mix?

Rich

 

Wow, that's the first time I've heard that the 2010+ models of the Ralliart don't have the same sluggish acceleration from a dead stop as the 2009 models. If this is true, then we TOTALLY need to find what they did and then apply it to the 2009 ECU's. Richard is right in saying that this is a potential driving hazard when pulling out into moving traffic. I almost got my car totaled recently doing just that because of the slow throttle response......

 

Bryan, Here is a freeze screen of the code I got the other day. I'm currently running the V2 Base map with zero mods. on 93oct

CODE P050B

Calc Load (%) 33.7
ECT (f) 48f
STFT B1 (%) 0
LTFT B1 (%) -0.7
MAP (inHg) 12.1
Eng RPM 1289
Veh SApeed (mph) 0
Spark Adv. (o) 20
IAT (f) 46
MAF (lb/min) 0.992
TPS (5) 13.7
Run Time (sec) 11
Command EVAP (%) 0
Fuel Level (%) 12.9
BARO (inHg) 29.2
ECU Volts (V) 14.648
LOAD Value (%) 29.0
EQ Ratio 0.999
Rel TPS (%) 3.8
Ambient (f) 46
TPS B(%) 13.7
ACC Pedal D (%) 19.6
ACC Pedal E(%) 9.0
Command TAC (%) 5.8

 

I don't know about the stock tune haven't ran it like that in months since my minor upgrades: uicp,licp,evo x ic, evo x bov, boost pill, lighter wheels. Just seems so sluggish off the line and am worried of getting hit at times. Any way you can tweak the throttle response for the 93 oct ver 2 basemap for 2009 ralliart?

 

Wouldnt logs show this? Compare throttle position vs speed or RPM between a 09 and a 10?

 

Code - P050B - Cold Start Ignition Timing Performance. Something to do with the timing retard valve and could be a couple of things.
ECU not poperly adjusting to the cold.

Apparently, the ECU has to retard the ignition timing to heat up the cat faster...i think.

 

There should be no difference from the 10 and 09 model. Nothing whatsoever. Only that one if manufactured a year later.

There are physical features that were changed, but thats it.

 

I would like to hear a real answer from Brian on this. No offense.

 

I've driven both 2009 and 2010 models and the 2010 model is better off the line. Not sure why but when you got WOT at traffic lights the clutch seems to engage faster and you don't get that whole "I'm thinking about it" delay. I thought the 2009 model was dangerious especially when at stop signs and nipping into traffic. But then again maybe there was something wrong with this car. Would be interested to see if the gearbox software is different.

 

I thought the 09s had to get a tcu update at the dealership where all the 10s already had this update. Same thing with the relays. Thats the only difference in the 09 and 10 i thought

 

Antiroll back is definately different feature on the 2010 TCU so there must be a software change. What else hopefully Bryan can answer.

 

This may be a dumb question but do the GSR's have the same slow response or with the extra tq/hp do they just respond to the pedal?

 

The GSR has a manual transmission, so no delay... Unless you are really bad on the clutch :P