2009 Lancer Ralliart - GST Basemap
If your going to order through GST just call to talk to a live person. I got great customer service and my pill arrived in around 2 days from what i remember. Plus its nice to support them for the great tune.
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From: Australia
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The GST boostpill tune (AUDM 93oct V2) is running beautifully. I finally got a quick VirtualDyno run in to compare it to the factory tune. Attached.
The run itself started a good 750rpm later than the "factory tune" comparison run, and that certainly shows in the early part of the boost curve. This makes the graph a little subdued at the low end. This isn't an accurate representation of things - but I'm not going out at this late hour to try again! :P
Interestingly, there's less detonation with this basemap than with the "stock pill" equivalent. Bryan, if you dumped extra fuel in to increase the margin of safety, it's working. Perhaps the stock pill "93oct" map was a little closer to the edge - I felt obliged to pull a degree of timing here and there while I was running that map. I did note that Tephra equated our Aussie 98RON fuel with "92.5 octane" in US-speak, so maybe that explains it. The "boost pill" map isn't showing any tendency to knock on our Aussie fuel.
Rich
The run itself started a good 750rpm later than the "factory tune" comparison run, and that certainly shows in the early part of the boost curve. This makes the graph a little subdued at the low end. This isn't an accurate representation of things - but I'm not going out at this late hour to try again! :P
Interestingly, there's less detonation with this basemap than with the "stock pill" equivalent. Bryan, if you dumped extra fuel in to increase the margin of safety, it's working. Perhaps the stock pill "93oct" map was a little closer to the edge - I felt obliged to pull a degree of timing here and there while I was running that map. I did note that Tephra equated our Aussie 98RON fuel with "92.5 octane" in US-speak, so maybe that explains it. The "boost pill" map isn't showing any tendency to knock on our Aussie fuel.
Rich
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2010 ROMs not working!!
Has anyone been having troubles with the 2010 ROMs? I downloaded them fine but when I try to open the file in ECUFlash it gives me an error "UNKNOWN ROM IMAGE", however the 2009 ROMs work fine! Any thoughts??
cheers,
Andre
cheers,
Andre
You most likely need a 2010 XML file.... This is one thing that's a pain with tuning stock ECU is all the XMLs etc. If this turns out to be the issue for you i have a XML file i can send to you for the 2010 RA. Just LMK. 
It is because you are missing the XML file to go with it. You can find it on the net. If you are not sure, drop me a PM with your ECU ID. I should have it here.
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I read the ECU and it still gives me the same error when i try to open the saved stock ROM. So i chose "create new deff." and selected copied from... I left all the info as is in the menus and this is what i came up with:
ID#: 55590007
Does this look right?
Thanks again,
noob
ID#: 55590007
Does this look right?
Thanks again,
noob
I read the ECU and it still gives me the same error when i try to open the saved stock ROM. So i chose "create new deff." and selected copied from... I left all the info as is in the menus and this is what i came up with:
ID#: 55590007
Does this look right?
Thanks again,
noob
ID#: 55590007
Does this look right?
Thanks again,
noob
- Bryan
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I'm having the exact same problem. The 2009 file will load just fine but the 2010 file gives me the same error. Did you find the cure?
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Like it says above... you probably dont have the appropriate XML file! Check out this thread:
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ec...ortback-3.html
Here you cn download the XML for ID#: 55590006. And if you have the 55590007, Brian posted what you should do. If you have any questions you can PM me and ill do my best to help out.
Cheers,
Andre
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ec...ortback-3.html
Here you cn download the XML for ID#: 55590006. And if you have the 55590007, Brian posted what you should do. If you have any questions you can PM me and ill do my best to help out.
Cheers,
Andre
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Hi Bryan.
I got the chance to check my AFRs on a dyno (DynaPack) the other day, running the GST 93oct BoostPill map. Ratios were good across the board.
We did a couple of typical WOT pulls, and I've got a question regarding the boost levels observed.
On the road, boost is logged as rising quickly to about 1.6 Bar (or thereabouts), holding steady, then tapering in neat steps to redline. I think I posted a Virtual Dyno image a little bit earlier in this thread.
On the dyno, however, boost rose to the expected level by 3150rpm, but then dropped off to 1.43 Bar by 3650rpm. Boost then built slowly back up, hitting its previous peak again at 4900rpm before tapering to 1.35 Bar at 6000rpm.
Pretty different to on-road logging, that's for sure.
I've attached a simple EvoScan "vs. RPM" graph of (1-byte) Load and Boost, showing the general pattern.
Things to note:
I'm keen to understand more about this, even if it's just one of those "dyno world differs from real world" situations.
If you can shed some light on this, please let me know.
Cheers,
Rich
edit: For some reason, the scaling on that EvoScan "vs. RPM" is rubbish. Here's a chunk of raw RPM & Boost logging data...
I got the chance to check my AFRs on a dyno (DynaPack) the other day, running the GST 93oct BoostPill map. Ratios were good across the board.
We did a couple of typical WOT pulls, and I've got a question regarding the boost levels observed.
On the road, boost is logged as rising quickly to about 1.6 Bar (or thereabouts), holding steady, then tapering in neat steps to redline. I think I posted a Virtual Dyno image a little bit earlier in this thread.
On the dyno, however, boost rose to the expected level by 3150rpm, but then dropped off to 1.43 Bar by 3650rpm. Boost then built slowly back up, hitting its previous peak again at 4900rpm before tapering to 1.35 Bar at 6000rpm.
Pretty different to on-road logging, that's for sure.
I've attached a simple EvoScan "vs. RPM" graph of (1-byte) Load and Boost, showing the general pattern.
Things to note:
- Car still uses the stock (puny) intercooler.
- Manifold Air Temp was 60 deg C at start of pull, dropping to 53 at end.
- Intake Air Temp (if my logging address is right) started at 42 deg C, dropping to 36 at end. Welcome to Australia in late spring!!
I'm keen to understand more about this, even if it's just one of those "dyno world differs from real world" situations.
If you can shed some light on this, please let me know.
Cheers,
Rich
edit: For some reason, the scaling on that EvoScan "vs. RPM" is rubbish. Here's a chunk of raw RPM & Boost logging data...
Code:
RPM Boost 2593.75 0.510755 2593.75 0.544105 2562.5 0.584125 2562.5 0.617475 2562.5 0.65416 2562.5 0.690845 2562.5 0.72753 2562.5 0.770885 2562.5 0.82091 2562.5 0.857595 2562.5 0.88761 2562.5 0.92763 2562.5 0.957645 2593.75 0.990995 2656.25 1.03435 2718.75 1.09438 2781.25 1.131065 2843.75 1.20777 2906.25 1.2678 2968.75 1.344505 3000 1.404535 3031.25 1.4679 3062.5 1.524595 3125 1.557945 3187.5 1.57462 3250 1.56795 3281.25 1.55461 3343.75 1.5346 3437.5 1.51459 3468.75 1.484575 3562.5 1.44789 3593.75 1.44789 3656.25 1.437885 3656.25 1.44789 3687.5 1.45456 3750 1.464565 3750 1.47457 3781.25 1.464565 3875 1.4679 3937.5 1.477905 3968.75 1.50792 4000 1.51459 4093.75 1.504585 4125 1.50125 4187.5 1.511255 4218.75 1.50792 4250 1.50792 4281.25 1.49458 4343.75 1.491245 4406.25 1.511255 4437.5 1.50125 4468.75 1.517925 4531.25 1.524595 4562.5 1.5346 4625 1.54127 4625 1.551275 4687.5 1.551275 4718.75 1.557945 4750 1.56795 4812.5 1.564615 4843.75 1.56128 4906.25 1.564615 4968.75 1.544605 5031.25 1.531265 5093.75 1.517925 5125 1.517925 5187.5 1.511255 5250 1.497915 5312.5 1.4679 5375 1.464565 5406.25 1.45456 5468.75 1.44122 5531.25 1.42121 5562.5 1.42121 5593.75 1.41454 5625 1.40787 5656.25 1.40787 5718.75 1.38786 5781.25 1.371185 5812.5 1.38119 5843.75 1.371185 5906.25 1.35451 5937.5 1.36118 6000 1.36118
Last edited by richardjh; Nov 2, 2010 at 05:10 AM. Reason: Raw data beats pretty graphs
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I actually joined this forum looking for a "cure". Haven't found one yet, but I'm learning a lot about the vehicle, and keeping close tabs on those clever individuals likely to make progress in this area!
Rich