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Old Jul 29, 2003 | 05:28 AM
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nice one, which performance mods have u got though
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Old Jul 30, 2003 | 04:41 AM
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powerchip gold, full exhaust system, k&N, cold air intake, bored out manifold and throttlebody, lightened fly and h/d clutch
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Old Jul 30, 2003 | 01:12 PM
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after those Corolla's

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Thats the go! I bet those Sportivo drivers can't believe what is happeing! When I was buying the a new car I looked at the Corolla and the Lancer, drove both of them and reckoned in the long run there was more left to get from the Mitsubishi engine. The 1ZZFE toyota is fairly highly strung (100kw) and also vibrates bad from 4500 rpm. The Mitsi engine was smoother high up (still not smooth by any standards) and performed very well in spite of the 14Kw deficit. Seems my choice is very likely goign to be right.

The Lancer should be boosting by next weekend for those watching this spot. It has taken a little while to sort out the way in which the intake and discharge ducting should be mounted and still I am not certain if it is the best. I suppose it can be altered should the picture become clearer. Will be using some extra injectors and f5 fueller from Haltech to add extra fuel, otherwise nothing too special.
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Old Aug 1, 2003 | 08:33 AM
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3-4 car lengths every time, lol. Guess what then, the other guy couldn't drive for.....

I haven't driven the 1ZZ(100kW), but the 2ZZ(141kW) is definately alot smoother than the 1.8 SOHC mitsi engine. Out of all the current 1.8s, the Lancer is the worst of the bunch for top end performance. It is harsh as all s**t. On the other hand, it's prolly about the best for low-mid range torque as that is what it has been designed for. The mitsi 1.8 isn't built to be revvved hard, that's what the GSRs and EVos are designed for.
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Old Aug 1, 2003 | 01:48 PM
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Lightbulb Idea for Singlecam

Singlecam I have an idea for you which will be good for your argument in the long run if it comes out like you think it will.

Take one Corolla Sportivo and go to a dragstrip or other place with computerised quarter mile equipment and do some runs and collect the time slips. Post them up here and your line is then settled, for the moment its just talk, show us some action please

I also know like Gav does that those high strung rigs are only any good in the last 3000 of the rpm band at best and a lot can be lost in the time it takes to get there!

For those watching this space, I have booked the car in Monday to fab up the pipe work, by then the S/C belt will have arrived also. There is a streetcar meet at our local strip next Sat and our aim is to be there with some performance, however if there is an issue that could lead to engine damage we will postpone going to the drags til next event when all bugs would be fixed. But for now as I said next weekend is the target. There won't be enough traction but can't buy the wheels and tires that I want cause they are out of stock, so will do the best I can with stock rubber.
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Old Aug 4, 2003 | 12:48 PM
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For our friend singlecam

I will quote this piece from Toymods Forum

"Toyota has quoted the Corolla sportvo as having 141kw at the flywheel. In a recent Motor mag they compared the:

Sportivo Corolla 141kw
Turbee Astra 147kw
Supercharged Mini 120kw
Ford Focus sporty one 127kw

As part of the test they dynoed all four cars and the corolla got the lowest figure of 87 front hoop kw whilst the astra got the highest with 100fwkw, the ford and mini in between with around 88 and 89 respectively.

Im just wondering whether the toyotas torque figure which is lowest out of the four contributed to the lowest reading, but if torque makes no difference then shouldnt the power at the flywheel be around the 120-130kw mark. So maybe Toyota is misquoting their power figures."

That Sportivo may not be as hot as some like to think
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Old Aug 4, 2003 | 10:42 PM
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ok so these slightly modded lancers can kick these new sportivo's. what about the other cars that are driving around these days? what luck have you lancer heads had with other standard machines?
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Old Aug 6, 2003 | 08:19 PM
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heres some information from Wheels magazine which i found interesting.

Celica ZR 6 sp man:
power: 140 kw
torque: 180 nm
weight: 1119 kg
0-100: 8.6 secs
0-400m: 16.2 secs

Mazda 6 Classic 5sp man:
power: 122 kw
torque: 207 nm
weight: 1354 kg
0-100: 8.5 secs
00-400m: 16.3 secs

since the Corolla Sportivo uses the same engine as the Celica and is heavier, I think its safe to assume it would be even slower than the Celica. All of a sudden the Sportivo doesn't seem as impressive anymore, the Mazda 6 on the other hand...
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Old Aug 7, 2003 | 07:12 AM
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another standard car that my Lancer has eaten is the astra, waiting to come up to the lights with a turbo astra now.
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Old Aug 9, 2003 | 04:00 PM
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Talking Are those sportivo's ready for more

Here it is at long last! The supercharged Lancer. The fuel system upgrades are not yet in place so true outputs are not available. Giving the supercharger a short run in for the moment. Otherwise all under the bonnet and running very smoothly!!

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Old Aug 10, 2003 | 12:42 AM
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Excellent work mate, could you please send me an email with some details as soon as they are available to graemekhughes@hotmail.com

I must say you have done a nice job.
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Old Aug 11, 2003 | 12:44 PM
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one time... i ran past a corolla =P
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Old Aug 13, 2003 | 05:32 PM
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Hey ppl,

Don't forget that gear ratios also affect your 1/4 time, not just power. Something with nice tight gear ratios will get you launching faster, but with more frequent changes, and a lower top speed.

My old S2000 had a 2nd gear top speed of 105km/h and a 3rd gear top speed of 160km/h.

I was told the reason for that was because they wanted only 1 shift to make 0-100 speeds quickest, and two shifts to get to a 150-160km/h trap speed for 1/4 mile.

As for the extreme losses on the Sportivo, I'd say that would have to be a problem with the car. A 40 percent drive loss just isn't realistic for a 2 wheel drive car. So either that car was dodgy, or Toyota is engaging in misleading advertising. Using Orcam's Razor, I'd go for the first option.
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Old Aug 14, 2003 | 01:20 AM
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Talking Testing testing

Well the tuning has started in earnest and while nothing has been documented I will tell this much:

Over a test distance that I do not know the length of but rather the speed achieved (from many previous runs :-)) I have increased my end speed by 25 Km/h ........ from 130 - 155. I changed ratios at 5400 rpm in each gear due to the onset of slight detonation ( tuning not yet finished). With everything right I expect to get extemely close to the 100 mph quarter mile speed, will be good if it goes more!

First and second gear are totally useless tractionwise for now ( not an issue previously) so will have to do something there when money allows. Really huge adrenalin rush when this sort of increase is showing itself.

For now I must research how to fix the leaness that still exists at the top end. I am in need of information about how much fuel pressure increase the fuel pump can handle. I now have it set at 64psi base pressure and the pump can be heard whining away ( never did before), will it handle up to 100 psi and for how much of its duty cycle??????? Maybe bigger injectors should be looked into?? All advice is welcome as I am a supercharger manufacturer not an engine tuner, maybe that seems odd but I can only do so much!! ......although I have had excellent results in the past.

Boost pressure is in the 7 - 8 psi range and maybe I have to trim that down a bit, time will tell.
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Old Aug 14, 2003 | 02:08 AM
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Good work mate, look into some Magna injectors, fuel pressure regulator, even a increased throttle body to 55 or even 60mm would do wonders. The stock TB can be bored out to 55mm and the only thing it needs is a new flap, this will of cause be matched with increasing the size of the intake manifold. I am not sure exactly what you are running but I think you could get away with a Unichip (or something simmilar) so a better control of the fuel and intake system. I doubt there would be a need for a 5th injector for your application. I am just thinking I might be able to get my hands on a Evo 4/5/6/7 fuel pump so contact me by email. I dont think it will set you back much at all.
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