Yeah my friend just bought an SRT-4 and was talking crap about how he heard that he can beat me from a roll.... i really want to race him...just to know once and for all!!... though he admits i can take him from a dig!!

 

i drove a srt-4 not too long ago, and there's a lot of stuff you can get from the dealership-that mopar crap-that will boost their hp. i drove one that had the turbo upgraded, tein coliovers, borla-mopar exhaust, and a chip, the dealership had it dyno'd at 226 whp. all of the mods were factory installed and dealership offered, it was selling for $19k, but its still a neon, and that car lags like a son of a b****, didnt feel boost till 3000-3300, so dont worry about it, he more than likely had as much if not more mods than you.

 

That's not lagging like a son of a bltch. That's earlier than my boost hits...

Also, srt-4s already dyno at 230 or so in stock form, so I'm not sure about the neon you're referring to having an upgraded turbo with exhaust and chip. It would have far more than stock hp if that were the case...not less. It also wouldn't be less than the normal price of $19,999. Were you referring to a used Neon with a turbo kit added or a new SRT-4 with no mods?

 

everyone else says their evos turbo hits full boost around 3k, one of my friend's evos starts getting boost before 2k. as for the srt4, stock to the CRANK is 225hp, not the wheels, they are completely different. where a stock evo produces around 230 to the wheels (ask anyone on the site if you dont believe me). and yes i was referring to an srt-4, they are completely different from a base neon-different displacement, power, body stlye. btw if your lagging that much you should really consider investing in a boost controller.

 

SRT-4's are one of the rare few cars that are advertised by WHP. In stock form, there's coutnless SRT-4's dyno'n in the 220-235whp range... bone stock.

For those of you who argue that AWD > FWD, I don't see how this is an advantage at all in a straight-line race from a roll, where neither car will have a traction issue... after-all, evo's turn into either 50/50 or 100/0.

All the commentary about how "it's still an ugly neon"... so? Saying that is just as bad as cocky domestic owners saying "it's still a riced out import" (referring to evo's). Do you look at 10 sec civic hatches and say "it's still a civic!"?

Also, the SRT-4 is not laggy at all... boost kicks in rather hard and fast... especially with the .4 litres of displacement they have over us. They utualize the Mitsubishi TD04-L-16GK turbo... I believe it's the same turbo used in the Evo IV.

I'm not a srt-4 driver, but I do respect well built motors despite whatever chassis they're bolted to.

 

Very well said brother, so many people come onto forums speak so much BS and not look at this SPORT/HOBBY as what it is. The one thing most of us have and should keep in common is the love and passion for Horsepower and performance........Regardless of the type of car, hey if its quick, its quick who cares what it is big block, small block, Chevy, Ford, Mopar, Import, FWD, AWD, RWD........the LOVE/HATE list goes on and on.
There are plenty of very surprising vehicles on the road that will shut the mouth of many of these "Expert commentators" on the forums if they ran against them, I know quite a few NEON SRT-4's that would have given my 4BANGR a run for the money. And like you mentioned also, more than enough 10 sec. streetable Civics around too...........
LOVE the sport, love the hobby, build what you can, make your choice and enjoy it because there will always be doubters and haters. As long as you're enjoying yourself along the way....its all fair game!!!
The smack talk has been around since the First Cowboy claimed HIS horse was faster than any other, and the guy who thought HIS Model T Ford was faster.............too much testosterone from day one and it will never end, regardless of what you drive..........GOD BLESS !!!!!!

 

[QUOTE=Derekj03] I'm very close to getting rid of my Evo because it just dosnt seem as fast as it should be. let me know wtf u guys think.

i hope you dont get a srt cuz of this

 

I drove a srt4 the other day that was used with like 15k and it had about 260whp......when i hit boost it was like a rocket if you want to feel the speed and get thrown into your seat get a srt4..the evo doesnt feel quick at all but it is......just maybe my opinion but i want my car to feel quick also...Id say if i woulda drove one before i traded the evo i woulda def traded it and got a srt4.but oh well.......

It may be a Neon but its one quick machine...

And hey a evo is just a lancer rememeber

A Sti is just a wrx..

there all the same people have their opinions on what they prefer

 

i never knew that they were advertised as whp . i always thought that it was to the crank. ill have to drive an evo and see how comparable they truly are, but definitely noy by style

 

^yeah the SRT-4's definitely have 230whp in stock form. As to why Dodge advertises like that... I dunno. So at crank, the SRT-4 is probably running the same hp as the Evo/Sti (somewhere around there).

 

yEAH AND ALL STAGE 4 OWNERS RUN 11.7 AT 117 MPH. lol

 

i dont think that the srt-4 produces 230whp stock, it does a 5.8 0-60 (http://www.dodge.com/srt-4/). i doubt there could be a .8 sec difference just because of their drivetrain. dont get me wrong, they still are pretty fast, and i wouldnt mind owning one, they would still dust my car .

 

Yes they came with about 230 whp and they are light. so yes from a roll they can take a stock evo down. Fwd = no power to the ground = 1/4 mile times at least 3/4 sec behind the Evo. Think about it stock cobra with 360 whp vs. stock Sti 250 whp. close race from dig but from a roll all Cobra. don't underestimate the competition and beware the srt-4 can run with Evos and Stis from a roll all day.

 

Not all, but im sure some do. For someone to say my car right now would run mid to low 13's is a pretty f*cking big insult. If i was stock then that would be a differnt story. So keep your bs comments to yourself.

 

BS Comments where? go run ur car and then talk s hit. Bench racers rule so I guess u rule. U never no Bra what ur car will run. And do u think that just because a tuner with a great no lift shifts Pro driver can get 12.4 that everybody can? Also do u think they are going to give u an aggressive drag race tune like the one they ran for that time? Yes ur car should be faster but is it? U have no quantifiable evidence besides what others have done. U might have a boost leak or it might be pulling timing because of bad gas or tuning glitch. Just ask JJ 008 what he thought he would run. He has alot more than u and as much as me and he is still in the 13s. Owned!