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Old May 30, 2005 | 10:52 PM
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I raced an srt 4 on a private road and i was only ahead a few feet... He wouldnt race me from a dig so we went from about a 35mph roll. I was only ahead by about 3 feet up to 105 mph. I have no idea how it was even close. He claimed he was almost stock. I should be running 12.5-12.6's with my current mods. I'm pretty pissed off about this. The only thing i can think of is a dont have a reflash for my intake and upper ic piping. Would this make that big of a difference? I'm very close to getting rid of my Evo because it just dosnt seem as fast as it should be. I should have like 320awhp. let me know wtf u guys think.

Dont delete this thread the race was on a private road that my friend owns that leads to his house. It was not a "street race."
I just reread ur post. get that thing retuned or flashed or something. U probably are a 13 sec car with that Intake and upper ic pipe. untuned intakes can slow u down IMO. Quit living Vicariously off of others and go get some quantifiable #s on ur car. Dyno and tune it and run it at the track. BTW Srt 4 are pretty quick IMO especially from a roll. u need to learn Boost braking or they can catch u off boost and put a hurtin on u.

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Old May 30, 2005 | 11:34 PM
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you just suck at racing bro
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Old Jun 1, 2005 | 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by IE Evo
BS Comments where? go run ur car and then talk s hit. Bench racers rule so I guess u rule. U never no Bra what ur car will run. And do u think that just because a tuner with a great no lift shifts Pro driver can get 12.4 that everybody can? Also do u think they are going to give u an aggressive drag race tune like the one they ran for that time? Yes ur car should be faster but is it? U have no quantifiable evidence besides what others have done. U might have a boost leak or it might be pulling timing because of bad gas or tuning glitch. Just ask JJ 008 what he thought he would run. He has alot more than u and as much as me and he is still in the 13s. Owned!
YEah im owned... Your ****in stupid... got i hate this forum now.. everyone on it is so pathetic except a handful of people. Yeah your right i cant drive.... i suck i dont know how to race... id be lucky to even get in the 13's..... Well i know i ran my best friends mustang who ran a 12.7 at milan around here and i put 1 1/2 cars on him in a from 0-110... sorry i dont have a time slip to prove that but that right there means my car is faster then 12.7's... im sure to some of you there are 2 many variables fer that to be true... I know i fast my car is just because i havent had a chance to go to the track yet is not a reason for you 2 tell me what u think i can run... CAn you tell the differnce in one car from another? well guess what so can i.. i will post the video of me at track on this july 17th... so you can see how bad of a driver i am... with my stock clutch.... Thanks i think im done with this forum and all this bull**** on it.
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Old Jun 1, 2005 | 04:03 PM
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Hey Derekj03, IE was just trying to show you that just because one driver can hit a 12.4 with the same setup doesn't automatically make your car a 12.4 car. There is no need to jump his a$$ because you can't understand simple english. You obviously don't understand all of the variables in racing so just stick to bench racing. And yes, you suck as a driver.

OZ4g94, you need to do some research about the SRT4 before you start telling people they don't know what they are talking about. Everybody knows SRT4's make about 230whp STOCK. Do your research before you ASSume you know what you are talking about.
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Old Jun 1, 2005 | 04:23 PM
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Wow...!!!.....I think, I wasn't impress on your reply that you have almost 1000 post and the right to tell people how dummy they are..... and I was saying the design of the engine, properly harnessing the displacement power.

You better brush up on your contructive conduct and "what do you mean by that" literature....
I am so sorry. next time i will spoon feed you and tell you it's ok. What does my post count have to do with anything? Did i say you were dumb? Your responses/questions/statements were as vague as child-**** on my hard drive.

I think the SRT's engine has shown in more than none that it can hold a substantial amount of power. No?

And as i stated, in what application. awd vs fwd. Straight line? Snow? what?

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Old Jun 1, 2005 | 04:25 PM
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honestly, do all of you just talk out of your a$$, or do you actually read my posts? once again, may i reiterate, that srt-4s hp is indeed to the crank and not to the wheel.

Originally Posted by IE Evo
Yes they came with about 230 whp and they are light
so if they are light, and produce 230 to the wheel, they would not only beat an evo from a roll, but also from a dig. and they would definitely beat their 5.8 0-60 time.
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Old Jun 1, 2005 | 04:26 PM
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you just suck at racing bro
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Old Jun 1, 2005 | 05:17 PM
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To keep it simple, you answered you own question in your own post. If he is running close to your 12.5/12.6 car, he isn't close to stock or your not driving a 12.5/12.6 car. They run high 13's stock, run 13.50's w/ light mods and can easily run in the 12's w/ all the goodies. Why are you so upset about a srt-4 being close?
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Old Jun 1, 2005 | 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Derekj03
I raced an srt 4 on a private road and i was only ahead a few feet... He wouldnt race me from a dig so we went from about a 35mph roll. I was only ahead by about 3 feet up to 105 mph. I have no idea how it was even close. He claimed he was almost stock. I should be running 12.5-12.6's with my current mods. I'm pretty pissed off about this. The only thing i can think of is a dont have a reflash for my intake and upper ic piping. Would this make that big of a difference? I'm very close to getting rid of my Evo because it just dosnt seem as fast as it should be. I should have like 320awhp. let me know wtf u guys think.

Dont delete this thread the race was on a private road that my friend owns that leads to his house. It was not a "street race."
I agree with a lot of other people on this board, but you are no where near 320 WHP with your current mods, not even if you were running 100 octane. Those numbers are probably closer to your crank horse power, give or take a few ponies. I have a lot more power mods than you and I am at about 350 WHP on 100 octane. Get some cams and cam gears if you really want the car to wake up.

Also, if you want to race from a roll you need to keep your left foot on the brake and your right foot on the gas. This will keep your car in boost and help you launch really hard once you lift your left foot from the gas peddle.
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Old Jun 1, 2005 | 05:37 PM
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Do say you have a xx.x second car until you have a timeslip to prove it. Just because you beat someone who's ran a x.xx before in a street race does NOT mean your car runs a faster time. There are plenty of other factors involved in timing a car from a complete stop to a complete 1/4mi. A 13.5 ET car can easily beat a 12.5 ET car in a street race depending on the conditions... this is why we, the people who care about accurate times, like to goto the track to see what our car does.
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Old Jun 1, 2005 | 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by ct9a gsr
There are plenty of other factors involved in timing a car from a complete stop to a complete 1/4mi. A 13.5 ET car can easily beat a 12.5 ET car in a street race depending on the conditions... this is why we, the people who care about accurate times, like to goto the track to see what our car does.
this is very true, many times it looked like I've beaten faster cars at the track but in reality I just left sooner, the time slips don't lie.
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Old Jun 1, 2005 | 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by oz4g94
honestly, do all of you just talk out of your a$$, or do you actually read my posts? once again, may i reiterate, that srt-4s hp is indeed to the crank and not to the wheel. so if they are light, and produce 230 to the wheel, they would not only beat an evo from a roll, but also from a dig. and they would definitely beat their 5.8 0-60 time.
Hmm, no, they have dyno'd over 200 to the wheels, which would indicate much more than 230 to the crank. They don't win from a dig or beat that 5.8 0-60 due to little, skinny tires and FWD.

For 2003 Dodge released the 2003 SRT-4 and it was known to have 215 hp and 240 torque. For 2004 Dodge quoted 230 and 250 torque. Does this mean the 2004’s had more power than the 2003’s ? On paper yes, in the real world no. It was very obvious to everyone when magazines started testing the SRT-4 on dynos and got on average 220-230 hp and 230-240 torque that the horsepower numbers were way underrated by Dodge. So, on paper, Dodge rated the numbers higher to state the hp and torque numbers a little closer to the real world power numbers.
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Old Jun 1, 2005 | 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by oz4g94
honestly, do all of you just talk out of your a$$, or do you actually read my posts? once again, may i reiterate, that srt-4s hp is indeed to the crank and not to the wheel.

so if they are light, and produce 230 to the wheel, they would not only beat an evo from a roll, but also from a dig. and they would definitely beat their 5.8 0-60 time.
Dude, you have no freaking clue. Let it go already.

It is a known FACT that the power numbers that Dodge claims to the crank is really TO THE WHEELS. Stock, I dynoed 225 hp to the wheels with 1500 miles on my odometer.

It is rumored that Dodge purposely under rated the power numbers so that insurance rates would remain low.
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Old Jun 1, 2005 | 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by oz4g94
honestly, do all of you just talk out of your a$$, or do you actually read my posts? once again, may i reiterate, that srt-4s hp is indeed to the crank and not to the wheel.



so if they are light, and produce 230 to the wheel, they would not only beat an evo from a roll, but also from a dig. and they would definitely beat their 5.8 0-60 time.
Yes please give it up. I've driven a srt 4 and it was quick as hell. they are putting down well over 200whp. torque steered like mad though.
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Old Jun 1, 2005 | 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by oz4g94
honestly, do all of you just talk out of your a$$, or do you actually read my posts? once again, may i reiterate, that srt-4s hp is indeed to the crank and not to the wheel.
Let me spell it out for you since you still don't get it.

SRT-4 = 230 WHEEL HORSEPOWER NOT CRANK. Do you understand the words that are coming from my keyboard.


Originally Posted by oz4g94
so if they are light, and produce 230 to the wheel, they would not only beat an evo from a roll, but also from a dig. and they would definitely beat their 5.8 0-60 time.
From a dig?? Wow you are clueless. If the SRT-4 had 250whp it would still lose the hole shot to an AWD car. A 2.3-2.1 sixty foot is not as good as a 1.7 sixty foot hole shot. Being FWD it has no traction, or should I say it doesn't have the same traction as an AWD.
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