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Old Dec 1, 2005 | 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by SterlingEvo
well there is a reason the Evo costs 2x the reg. lancer. it is a bit more than just the turbo. but yes, Evos are lancers with turbos. Just like any version of any model line is that same car but with enhancements/upgrades.
Actually, no. The Lancer is an Evolution without a turbo. Big difference.

The Evolution exited before it ever had anything to do with a Lancer. That was just the next (and current) platform that Mitsu chose for its Rally existence after previously being a Galant VR4. The SRT-4 is a Neon with a turbo. The Evolution is not a Lancer with a turbo.
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Old Dec 1, 2005 | 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by C6C6CH3vo
Cobras (03 and 04), are capable of being very, very quick drag cars that do neeto burnouts, thats it:
  1. Terrible gas milage mine gets 17
  2. For the price they should stay on the track better this makes no sense
  3. Lopsided weight distributionagreed
  4. Poor tractionthat is why I ran a 12.2 on DR's....
  5. Cheap undurable materials from interior to exterior (finish is OK).where is your proof
  6. Mustangs are generally marketed for womenyeah....I see so many women driving Cobras....That applies to the lancer too. Any dude who drives a Lancer less than a EVO is ghay IMO, that would be like driving a civic
  7. Enginered and assembled by lazy union employes (like myself)that is why it is the top selling domestic company
  8. Cobra owners consistantly say the 'F' word between pronouns and adverbsyeah....so wo EVO owners, and GM owners, and Honda owners....good one.
Please don't compare an evo to such a car. The evo is a budget performance sports car capable of competing with the supercars and furthermore rallying. It just so happens to be able of producing surprising results at the dragstrip and for this reason evo owners get addicted to the fact - it's fun. I hate to say it....I love EVO's, but it isn't a sports car. They are quick, and handle awesome. But don't compare them(or Cobras) to supercars.

The cobra is the ultimate american-made muscle dragcar, but merely nothing more.

Comparing evos to cobras cannot be put into context.
You are kidding, right?

Have you ever driven an 03-04 Cobra?
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Old Dec 1, 2005 | 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by C6C6CH3vo
Sorry I was just being sarcastic because I'm prejudice against mustangs (mustang owners out here are true evo haters: "evos are lancers with turbos"). Good to here the union worked for you. I'm a union member and it hasn't done squat for me (DoD aircraft electrician).

Spend time with your little one they are truely a blessing. I have two myself a split-tail and a boy. With proper parenting my son will never own a cobra, however the cobra would be a good car for my daughter.
There are bad apples in every group. Don't hold a grudge towards all Cobra owners. Me being involved in imports for the past 12 years or so, when I bought my Cobra I met alot of nice guys and girls. Now that I have my EVO they still treat me with the same respect as if I still had my Cobra.

Your list about the Cobra is funny, but not really all that true. The EVO's materials are just as much on the cheap side as the interior of a Mustang. I prefer my EVO's interior, but the seats and shifter in my CObra were awesome. I was never a fan of the dash, but I couldn't complain abou tit with 390whp. The paint was ALOT better on the Cobra.

I'd get about 250-280 miles on my CObra staying out of the gas and highway driving. My EVO gets about the same. Even if it has a bigger tank and motor, it's a fair trade off with the power it has.

My Cobra hooked really good on the street. Just stomping it in 1st gear would throw you and your passenger in the seat and pin you there. The car hardly got sideways unless I made it do it.
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Old Dec 1, 2005 | 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Prof. Pollo
Bragging on the internet is cool. Come up here and do it then. The local SRT clubs stock cars can barely break out of the 15's.
the other guy who works here has a little brother with a 2005 SRT4. The only mod he has is a wastegate actuator. he ran 13.4, 13.5 and 13.6. stock street tires. only other things we did was pull the catback off and take out the air filter. 135$ in mods and running consistent mid 13's. even better then alot of stock evos do with crappy drivers. and this kid is no pro driver either
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Old Dec 1, 2005 | 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Warrtalon
Actually, no. The Lancer is an Evolution without a turbo. Big difference.

The Evolution exited before it ever had anything to do with a Lancer. That was just the next (and current) platform that Mitsu chose for its Rally existence after previously being a Galant VR4. The SRT-4 is a Neon with a turbo. The Evolution is not a Lancer with a turbo.
I have to disagree with you a little here. The evo has a different suspension, driveline, motor, parts of the body are different and the evo has added structural bracing the regualr lancer does not have. Also has different brakes, etc... the only things that are the same are:

The bare frame
most of the interior minus the seats
the front doors
trunk lid
roof
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Old Dec 1, 2005 | 07:22 PM
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Ok, I seriously don't know who the hell is trying to say the Cobra guys time slip is chopped. The right 1st shows who got off the line first and started the clocks were im from, not who one!!

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Old Dec 1, 2005 | 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by C6C6CH3vo
Cobras (03 and 04), are capable of being very, very quick drag cars that do neeto burnouts, thats it:
  1. Terrible gas milage
  2. For the price they should stay on the track better
  3. Lopsided weight distribution
  4. Poor traction
  5. Cheap undurable materials from interior to exterior (finish is OK).
  6. Mustangs are generally marketed for women
  7. Enginered and assembled by lazy union employes (like myself)
  8. Cobra owners consistantly say the 'F' word between pronouns and adverbs
Please don't compare an evo to such a car. The evo is a budget performance sports car capable of competing with the supercars and furthermore rallying. It just so happens to be able of producing surprising results at the dragstrip and for this reason evo owners get addicted to the fact - it's fun.

The cobra is the ultimate american-made muscle dragcar, but merely nothing more.

Comparing evos to cobras cannot be put into context.

So basicly your saying that evos dont need to do burnouts
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Old Dec 1, 2005 | 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by MystiChrome04
Ok, I seriously don't know who the hell is trying to say the Cobra guys time slip is chopped. The right 1st shows who got off the line first and started the clocks were im from, not who one!!
Open Mouth and insert Foot.............................................. ...........
Please stick to things that you do know about because it has become quite apparent by your post that Drag Racing or understanding a Time Slip is not any of them.
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Old Dec 1, 2005 | 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by MystiChrome04
Ok, I seriously don't know who the hell is trying to say the Cobra guys time slip is chopped. The right 1st shows who got off the line first and started the clocks were im from, not who one!!
If any knowledgeable Cobra driver saw that you wrote this, they'd disown you in a heartbeat. That is the dumbest thing I've seen typed in this thread...even more dumb than the thread title. "Left 1st" or "Right 1st" always shows who won the race, which means who crossed the finish line first. The number after it is the margin of victory, which combines reaction time with 1/4 ET. In that slip, it says the right lane won, but really the left lane did...or so we're led to believe.
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Old Dec 1, 2005 | 10:18 PM
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Cobras are stupid


Sorry, I just wanted to write the dumbest thing in this thread.

I think we should now have a lovefest with the Cobra guys. Fast cars are fast cars.

We could have one meet at the drags, and one meet at a rally. Feel the love?
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Old Dec 2, 2005 | 07:05 AM
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oh yeah? well my dad can beat up your dad.
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Old Dec 2, 2005 | 07:29 AM
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Here is a good example of how fast the 03 cobra is,with bolt on's,against a totally stock 06 corvette z06,not to pretty,but the new z06 is an awesome machine,not even in the same league as the Cobra,even though it is more than just a straight line car,Enjoy
http://x1002.putfile.com/videos/b2-32821584031.wmv
Here is the Cobra's mods:
03 Cobra Mods:

- Steeda intake
- X-pipe w/no cats
- Magnaflow cat-back
- Diablo Chip
- Smaller pulley
- Kenny Brown full suspension

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Old Dec 2, 2005 | 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by turboDan
Here is a good example of how fast the 03 cobra is,with bolt on's,against a totally stock 06 corvette z06,not to pretty,but the new z06 is an awesome machine,not even in the same league as the Cobra,even though it is more than just a straight line car,Enjoy
http://x1002.putfile.com/videos/b2-32821584031.wmv
Power to weight owns....

I'd love to have me a C6 Vette. I don't care if its'a base model or not. I just love those cars.
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Old Dec 2, 2005 | 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted by turboDan
Here is a good example of how fast the 03 cobra is,with bolt on's,against a totally stock 06 corvette z06,not to pretty,but the new z06 is an awesome machine,not even in the same league as the Cobra,even though it is more than just a straight line car,Enjoy
http://x1002.putfile.com/videos/b2-32821584031.wmv
Here is the Cobra's mods:
03 Cobra Mods:

- Steeda intake
- X-pipe w/no cats
- Magnaflow cat-back
- Diablo Chip
- Smaller pulley
- Kenny Brown full suspension
You mean to say the Cobra is not in the same league as the c6 z06, right? You made it sound like the Cobra owns the Z06. I thought that's what you meant until I saw the vid where the Z06 won by a few bus lengths.
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Old Dec 2, 2005 | 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by 98Snake03
Originally Posted by C6C6CH3vo
Cobras (03 and 04), are capable of being very, very quick drag cars that do neeto burnouts, thats it:
  1. Terrible gas milage mine gets 17 at best
  2. For the price they should stay on the track better this makes no sense
  3. Lopsided weight distributionagreed
  4. Poor tractionthat is why I ran a 12.2 on DR's tractionin a straight line maybe, I'm talking about corner exit speed
  5. Cheap undurable materials from interior to exterior (finish is OK).where is your proof FORD
  6. Mustangs are generally marketed for womenyeah....I see so many women driving Cobras....That applies to the lancer too. Any dude who drives a Lancer less than a EVO is ghay IMO, that would be like driving a civic you are comparing a cobra to a lancer, the only thing lancers and evos have in common is the trunklid and fuel guage, yes the mustang originally was marketed for chicks in the 60's and 70% owners I see are girls
  7. Enginered and assembled by lazy union employes (like myself)that is why it is the top selling domestic company the pet rock was once top selling too
  8. Cobra owners consistantly say the 'F' word between pronouns and adverbsyeah....so wo EVO owners, and GM owners, and Honda owners....good one. what is "so wo"?

Please don't .....bla, bla I hate to say it....I love EVO's, but it isn't a sports car. They are quick, and handle awesome. But don't compare them(or Cobras) to supercars.
The evo is a rally car but just so happens to competative with $100,000 sports cars on the track, futhermore do OK on the strip. They are infact, a poor mans supercar.


You are kidding, right? Nope

Have you ever driven an 03-04 Cobra? No, but I bet it's fun

Yes cobras are sligtly faster accelerating cars than evos, but the above satirical comparison was not stressing that topic. I was just pointing out some facts about the cobra.

Here you go, compare an Evo to a cobra with similiar driver skills at Sebring, or any race course (not drag strip) for that manner. You know what the results would be.
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