Hoosier 245/45/17 Drag Radial a reality!
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This pretty much explains why that tire will not work on our cars.
OK, I'm about to get windy again, sorry in advance.
The MT bike slick shouldn't even be used on our cars based on safety issues, sidewalls, etc. I understand that it IS used, but not an option for many of us as well as it doesn't fit the stock wheel properly. The QTP is 26.1" tall and is great if you have 15" wheels and need a little more mph over the stock size of 25.2-25.3". Knowing that many Evo owners won't go to small brakes and 15's, we've narrowed the options down to 17's, since the 18's shouldn't be used for performance (read weight and sidewall) reasons. The remaining decent options are the BFG 225 and the Nitto555R's. I've used both, extensively. The BFG's have great compound and bite with very good tire patch for a 225. The issue is the sidewalls are not ideal for our cars at the dragstrip. We need some sidewall to work with the suspension. It also is lacking in the height when it comes to a modded Evo. We can easily run out of gear with a stock tire height (or shorter) such as the BFG. The Nitto has ideal dimensions, (25.7 tall, 8 " tread width and the sidewall is reasonable compared to everything else available.) Problem is we don't have much of an option to get heat into the tire on our AWD cars. The Nitto is a harder compound and doesn't have a lot of bite when you launch at 6000+. The best option is simply to get the tire softer to begin with. At present, a soft tire that fits the stock size wheel, but adds a little more 'dimensions' isn't available, until now. The QTP's aren't available in a 17. The Nittos are too hard. The BFGs aren't BEEFY and tall enough.
All of the best attributes are put into this new tire. Soft compound, little more tread width, little more height and a lot lighter than a snow or allweather tire in similar size. I have a set of 255 Dunlop M3's that have great compound, but way too heavy for drag racing. If I used the M3's, I lose all of the weight savings that the light wheels brought to the table, besides adding the weight to the circumference of the tire as opposed to being closer to center with stock wheels and tires. Best option is a new size, better compound and hopefully lighter weight than anything available. I'll say it again, I'm long winded but I prefer to give complete answers than partial responses leaving questions.
The MT bike slick shouldn't even be used on our cars based on safety issues, sidewalls, etc. I understand that it IS used, but not an option for many of us as well as it doesn't fit the stock wheel properly. The QTP is 26.1" tall and is great if you have 15" wheels and need a little more mph over the stock size of 25.2-25.3". Knowing that many Evo owners won't go to small brakes and 15's, we've narrowed the options down to 17's, since the 18's shouldn't be used for performance (read weight and sidewall) reasons. The remaining decent options are the BFG 225 and the Nitto555R's. I've used both, extensively. The BFG's have great compound and bite with very good tire patch for a 225. The issue is the sidewalls are not ideal for our cars at the dragstrip. We need some sidewall to work with the suspension. It also is lacking in the height when it comes to a modded Evo. We can easily run out of gear with a stock tire height (or shorter) such as the BFG. The Nitto has ideal dimensions, (25.7 tall, 8 " tread width and the sidewall is reasonable compared to everything else available.) Problem is we don't have much of an option to get heat into the tire on our AWD cars. The Nitto is a harder compound and doesn't have a lot of bite when you launch at 6000+. The best option is simply to get the tire softer to begin with. At present, a soft tire that fits the stock size wheel, but adds a little more 'dimensions' isn't available, until now. The QTP's aren't available in a 17. The Nittos are too hard. The BFGs aren't BEEFY and tall enough.
All of the best attributes are put into this new tire. Soft compound, little more tread width, little more height and a lot lighter than a snow or allweather tire in similar size. I have a set of 255 Dunlop M3's that have great compound, but way too heavy for drag racing. If I used the M3's, I lose all of the weight savings that the light wheels brought to the table, besides adding the weight to the circumference of the tire as opposed to being closer to center with stock wheels and tires. Best option is a new size, better compound and hopefully lighter weight than anything available. I'll say it again, I'm long winded but I prefer to give complete answers than partial responses leaving questions.
do you think MT will jump on the band wagon and make these too? i think if hoosier pops these puppys out first in this size and they sell like crazy it won't be long til others start making this size. what are your thoughts?
I just found these on the MT site:
3740R P205/40R17 24X8.50R17 19 R2 7.0-8.0 7.5 8.3 7.3 23.5 74
don't know if they would fit on our stock rim though because of it being a 205. am i right on that? but then again the tire is 8.5 wide. on the site it says it will fit on a
7.0 - 8.0.
I just found these on the MT site:
3740R P205/40R17 24X8.50R17 19 R2 7.0-8.0 7.5 8.3 7.3 23.5 74
don't know if they would fit on our stock rim though because of it being a 205. am i right on that? but then again the tire is 8.5 wide. on the site it says it will fit on a
7.0 - 8.0.
a 23.5 is way too short for us... you need to rev @ 11,000 to get decent traps!
Chris, if anyone could put them through the test, you could. You're a great driver, I've seen it first hand. Too bad we couldn't get things going a month sooner, but Hoosier wanted to wait for the results from the 225's first. The wait set us all behind where we would like to be, but I guess all good things come to those who wait. I would love to see them show up in Indianapolis before I get there. Indy's getting anxious too. It seems as though we're always waiting for something. With today's economy, you would think that you could order something today and have it arrive yesterday, but it still doesn't work that way.
So I've been following this thread for a while now
I was thinking about getting a set of hoosier 245/45 slicks. But I would have to buy a different set of wheels.( I don't want to spend anymore money then I have to) Then I read that their is a set of 225/45/17 slicks. Are these in production yet?
This is for a 2g dsm.
I was thinking about getting a set of hoosier 245/45 slicks. But I would have to buy a different set of wheels.( I don't want to spend anymore money then I have to) Then I read that their is a set of 225/45/17 slicks. Are these in production yet?
This is for a 2g dsm.
I run a 245/45/17 with lowering springs and stock struts. I rub a little while at full lock... nothing to get your panties in a bunch about.
I'm really excited for these. Looking forward to some 60' times!
I'm really excited for these. Looking forward to some 60' times!
I ran a 255/45/17 with lowering springs and stocks struts and didn't have any problems whatsoever.
the problem that we might have with those tires is when we deflate them in order to get the traction. When we deflate them, they become wider than the 245 so i have to have my reservations for the stock struts...