Case study # 31 - ATP Turbo Kit 3071 - Member Az3ar

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Apr 14, 2005 | 08:41 PM
  #226  
Quote: BTW - IMHO the cel 0300 code issue is related to hardwear in the xede being defective - just my opinion - I have seen it before in other piggy backs. Obviously - there was nothing to be diagnosed on his CAR as the problem was corrected simply by removing the xede.
Quiet AL, thats something that should not get out.


You hardcore Vishuites know what i mean....right boys

Maybe its time for Shiv to make or start lookin into something newer or better for EM, instead of riding the Xede train.
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Apr 14, 2005 | 08:51 PM
  #227  
No offense to anybody for allot of people the flash is the way to go. But damnit just get a Autronic SMC and be done with it!!

BTW i had a AEM and the Autronic blows it out of the water its amazing! But i did go with the Full SMC and not the PNP so i cant comment on the PNP model.

Anyway once agian good job AL and Shiv well least you got your TV career!..jk..

Chris
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Apr 14, 2005 | 09:39 PM
  #228  
god i cant believe this has gone on for 16 pages now. how hard is it to understand that the poor guy didnt get tuned right the first time. ok it was running fine then he had issues that needed to be fixed after being tuned, yeah he was running fine before the tune, which changed after getting retuned. so how can u vishnuites say it wasnt because of the tune, and saying it was a similar map doesnt mean jack, so they spent less time because they didnt change much. they still should have spent some time to make sure it was running correctly. the poor guys car was not running correctly how hard is that to see. so he went back for a retune. which now means shiv had 2 chances to get it correct. and still didnt. how many times do you have to get tuned for the same mods to get it to run correctly? answer: once if its done correctly. if it was done correctly the first time he wouldnt have had to go a second time, and if it was handled correctly then. he wouldnt have had to go to al. now i dont have personal experience with either tuner. i was supposed to be flashed by al when he was down in la but personal obligations and my evo acting up changed that. but i mean come on how hard is it to see what really happened. good job on the tune al, you gave azaer wat he needed to be done. and to shiv and the vishnuites give it up azaer has said let it go. no matter what you say it wont change the fact his car was not tuned correctly and there was 2 chances not 1 but 2 chances for shiv to do it correctly reguardless of it being a dyno day or not he should have at least spent the time to get it tuned right, not just throw a map in the xede and blame something else when it could have been easily checked. now i wasnt there but according to azaer and other parties involved including you vishnuites, it was admitted that little time was spent on his car. maybe a little more time and it would have been done correctly. once again al good job, and azaer congratulations on ur car running well,
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Apr 14, 2005 | 10:16 PM
  #229  
Al-- Still waiting for dyno run #1.

TIA,
shiv
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Apr 15, 2005 | 05:16 AM
  #230  
EVOL EDO, get your stories straight, the car was running fine the day of the April 2nd dyno day (the first retune in your book). The car began to have problems a few hours later after we had left the shop. Az3er wanted to have his car looked at for 93oct and a race gas map. The following day, Sunday, they had asked him to come by the shop for them to take a look at it but he had to be at work on Monday. The problem could have come from a multitude of things.

When he went to Turbotrix, was his first chance to get his car fixed. However, he left without giving anyone a chance to look at it.

Bottom line is: anything that could have gone wrong, went wrong, there was miscommunication along the way, patience was low, and schedules were full. **** happens.
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Apr 15, 2005 | 05:38 AM
  #231  
werd!
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Apr 15, 2005 | 05:44 AM
  #232  
Quote: EVOL EDO, get your stories straight, the car was running fine the day of the April 2nd dyno day (the first retune in your book). The car began to have problems a few hours later after we had left the shop. Az3er wanted to have his car looked at for 93oct and a race gas map. The following day, Sunday, they had asked him to come by the shop for them to take a look at it but he had to be at work on Monday. The problem could have come from a multitude of things.

When he went to Turbotrix, was his first chance to get his car fixed. However, he left without giving anyone a chance to look at it.

Bottom line is: anything that could have gone wrong, went wrong, there was miscommunication along the way, patience was low, and schedules were full. **** happens.

You dont want to stop do you? you keep putting youself in $hit. I called shiv the next morning when I was 100 miles away and he insisted on a boost leak. I told him and Andrew that I dont believe it's a boost leak. If Shiv is not too arrogant and he listend to me I would have made a U turn right there. If he did not believe me on the phone why would he believe me there?

Keep going, every post you make I will reply to, every post you make you make Shiv and Vishnu look dumber.

Regards
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Apr 15, 2005 | 05:54 AM
  #233  
So, if you knew you had a problem the night before, why didn’t you make a point to go to the shop first thing in the morning instead of running off? I know if I had a problem the night before I was leaving, I would make every attempt to stop by the place work was performed on my car.

Thx.
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Apr 15, 2005 | 05:59 AM
  #234  
Quote: You dont want to stop do you? you keep putting youself in $hit. I called shiv the next morning when I was 100 miles away and he insisted on a boost leak. I told him and Andrew that I dont believe it's a boost leak. If Shiv is not too arrogant and he listend to me I would have made a U turn right there. If he did not believe me on the phone why would he believe me there?

Keep going, every post you make I will reply to, every post you make you make Shiv and Vishnu look dumber.

Regards
Guy, are you kidding me here? you are talking about someone's BEST GUESS over a phone when they can't even see your car. If the car was there, and he checked everything over, i would say it is highly likely that he would have changed his mind.

Lots of things could have been going wrong. You can't realistically expect someone to diagnose something over the phone 100% accurately. can you?

Im not bashing you at all, i just think that is very unrealistic expectations. Sounds to me like you need to be pampered by your tuner, im sure you will have some problem with al next time something happens to your car.
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Apr 15, 2005 | 06:04 AM
  #235  
Quote: So, if you knew you had a problem the night before, why didn’t you make a point to go to the shop first thing in the morning instead of running off? I know if I had a problem the night before I was leaving, I would make every attempt to stop by the place work was performed on my car.

Thx.

Dude, Do you F***ing read. I trusted Shiv. I thought it was my race map gas. Our ECUs are very sensitive. I thought if the code comes back on the way then its for sure the tuning (it did). I called that moment and I tried to see and feel if Shiv would take a look but he kept saying BOOST LEAK BOOST LEAK BOOST LEAK. Is it my fault that he does not listen? Is it my fault that he is soo busy? I don’t care what happened. He did not take care of my car from the first place. He got it off the dyno after few minutes. If he drove my car instead going to hooters he would have caught the issue right there. I told him idle is bad he did not even look at it. Did you Shiv? No you have not. Why did you leave me running on Xflash? Why did you say you did not touch my maps? Why are you lying? Is it because that turbo might make power and you just don’t want it too? Look at my power under the curve now (DYNO FLASH NOT YOU) it will run low low 12 or even high 11s with mad shifting. You lost a good customer just get over it. I got dynoflash and there is NOTHING you can do or say about it.

Keep going, I have more to come
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Apr 15, 2005 | 06:07 AM
  #236  
Quote: Guy, are you kidding me here? you are talking about someone's BEST GUESS over a phone when they can't even see your car. If the car was there, and he checked everything over, i would say it is highly likely that he would have changed his mind.

Lots of things could have been going wrong. You can't realistically expect someone to diagnose something over the phone 100% accurately. can you?

Im not bashing you at all, i just think that is very unrealistic expectations. Sounds to me like you need to be pampered by your tuner, im sure you will have some problem with al next time something happens to your car.

wrong wrong wrong. Take these Vishnu plugs out of your ears and listen.

His best guess was way off and I told him I dont have boost leak. If he said Mhyar make a U turn I would have made that ****ing U turn as I was 100 miles away. It was my MBC you guys were blaming now its the boost leak then its me but never Shiv hu?

His fault period.
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Apr 15, 2005 | 06:11 AM
  #237  
Yeah, trust is great and all, but jeez man, you should have gone back to the shop. Its as simple as that. Yes it is your fault that you did not go back to the shop. You were only a few miles north of the shop. I know how you are about your car, very protective, and I am the same way when it comes to my car. If I ever have a problem with mine, andrew is the first to know about it. He makes every attempt to get things right. They would have done the same for you. like gsuJeff said, how do you expect them to diagnose the problem when you are over 100 miles away and driving.

btw, where you running the muffler delete pipe on the way back or the stock muffler.....
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Apr 15, 2005 | 06:12 AM
  #238  
Quote: and Shiv well least you got your TV career!..jk..

Chris
I doubt this one too

Yo, how is the manifold. I want pics buddy.
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Apr 15, 2005 | 06:15 AM
  #239  
Quote: Yeah, trust is great and all, but jeez man, you should have gone back to the shop. Its as simple as that. Yes it is your fault that you did not go back to the shop. You were only a few miles north of the shop. I know how you are about your car, very protective, and I am the same way when it comes to my car. If I ever have a problem with mine, andrew is the first to know about it. He makes every attempt to get things right. They would have done the same for you. like gsuJeff said, how do you expect them to diagnose the problem when you are over 100 miles away and driving.

btw, where you running the muffler delete pipe on the way back or the stock muffler.....

The delete pipe man, I am so tired of this $hit. I am running the stock muffler now with dynoflash and no cods can you explain that?

No you can't because your ears are shut and you are not using your brain. You need Shiv to tune you but watch out for the PO172 which mean overly rich in hole 1.
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Apr 15, 2005 | 06:19 AM
  #240  
Why do always ignore my questions? You always put so much emphasis into one thing that I said.

Let me ask you again, maybe you can understand better…. Where you, Az3er, running the cat delete pipe on the way home to Virginia, or did you put the stock muffler back on before you left?

Is that clear enough for you?
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