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Old Aug 27, 2006 | 09:38 AM
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The power of the BR3065 and flash!!

This past friday I finally got my car tuned by the master of flashes, Big Al. Before I go into any details I first want to thank Al for the incredible tune and great customer service as is always provided. Buschur racing for all of their rock solid parts and continuous help with my project and great customer service. And Pruven for all of their help and for the use of their facility.

Here is what it took:

BR3065
BR Race FMIC
BR 3" Bullet exhaust
BR UICP
BR 3" Intake
BR Custom LICP
BR 680 Injectors
HKS 272I/280E cams
HKS DLI2
SMC Alky
NGK BR8ES(.028)

Notice the parts combination. Which I believe is critical in maximizing the potential of your setup. It all comes down to parts combination and a rock solid tune, which I can thank Buschur Racing and Al for.

The car is rock solid and is an absolute beast on the street. I could not ask for anything more from this setup as I believe that it is the perfect street machine. Full boost I believe was coming in at 4800 on the street and then it just pulls like a freight train forever. The great thing about this turbo is its ability to recover very fast in between shifts. If you shift fast enough the boost is right there as soon as you shift...incredible.

The dyno conditions were not very forgiving with temps in the 90's on the dyno and 100% humidity as it was raining when my car was on the dyno..

On 93+alky and 21 lbs the car made 430awhp and 342awtq!! Which when you think about it is crazy as my old setup at 27 lbs (stock turbo w/ ported parts) made 370...Al and I decided to leave the boost low for the street tune as I will be using race gas for some fun on the street/track.

On C16 (mix of 1/8 tank 93 + 5 gallons of C16) and 29 lbs the car made 500awhp and 400awtq!! The tq curve is even better on the race gas tune as it is a straight line to redline.

There is alot more left in the car as a/f is deep in the mid-low 10's and the timing is conservative as well. There is an easy 25-30 more whp left on the table.

I will post up the dyno sheet soon..

I will be taking the car to the track asap, but I am still on the stock clutch. So once I have the Exedy Twin HD in hand, I will go to the track.

Thanks again to Al for the awsome tune!

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Old Aug 27, 2006 | 09:52 AM
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sounds like a great setup, i was considering the same thing. whats the lag like tho? everyone who has the stock turbo complains about lag but it seems like everyone with a laggier turbo says it aint that bad.
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Old Aug 27, 2006 | 09:57 AM
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Nice numbers!! I have pretty much the same mods except 280cams, stroker, and all ported parts, but for some reason Al was not able to tune my car when he was at buschur. nice to see your set up producing good numbers on a flash!
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Old Aug 27, 2006 | 09:58 AM
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Yea everybodys opinion is different. When I had the stock turbo I didnt want more lag, but now that I have a bigger turbo, I dont mind the lag at all. You actually find yourself with better gas mileage as you are not in boost as much...

The off boost driving with this turbo is just as good as stock...if not better since you get to hear the turbo spooling...

Like I said above I was hitting 21 lbs at around 4800 on the street in 2-3rd gear. I actually think it was coming in sooner than this, but I will report back and verify later
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Old Aug 27, 2006 | 10:06 AM
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Nice numbers!! I have pretty much the same mods except 280cams, stroker, and all ported parts, but for some reason Al was not able to tune my car when he was at buschur. nice to see your set up producing good numbers on a flash!
By ported parts to you mean the 65mm tb and intake manifold? The stroker would be really nice to have on the street.

There was a guy at Pruven with the same setup as me, except a vpro and it was a 9 mr, and his spool was coming in around 4500...so the mivec really does help with the spool even with the bigger turbos. Thanks man, I am just glad I can finally sit back and enjoy the car...
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Old Aug 27, 2006 | 10:29 AM
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I have seen others - Particularly Fury365 who have had less spectaculat results on this turbo when using a mis mosh of non Buschur parts

It shows that the Buschur mod combos work very well as a combination

This paricular car was a big treat to drive

at 500 whp and 400 TQ it was a serious street machine

Amazing that the stock clutch held all of that

Thanks !
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Old Aug 27, 2006 | 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by kmcconn9
By ported parts to you mean the 65mm tb and intake manifold? The stroker would be really nice to have on the street.


yeah and i have the stage 3 head.

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Old Aug 27, 2006 | 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by DynoFlash
I have seen others - Particularly Fury365 who have had less spectaculat results on this turbo when using a mis mosh of non Buschur parts

It shows that the Buschur mod combos work very well as a combination

This paricular car was a big treat to drive

at 500 whp and 400 TQ it was a serious street machine

Amazing that the stock clutch held all of that

Thanks !
Yea I was suprised that the clutch held up for the tune, street test, and 300 mile drive home with no trouble...

Thanks again Al...and congrats on your 9.8 on those very sick dot's
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Old Aug 27, 2006 | 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by kmcconn9
By ported parts to you mean the 65mm tb and intake manifold? The stroker would be really nice to have on the street.QUOTE]

yeah and i have the stage 3 head.
I would be interested to see what effect the 65mm tb and intake mani have power wise with this setup...
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Old Aug 27, 2006 | 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by kmcconn9
I would be interested to see what effect the 65mm tb and intake mani have power wise with this setup...

hopefully i can get my car tuned and running soon, i want to stay with the flash, but looks like im going to have to get the aem. as for the intake mani, im wondering how it would compare to the ams vsr intake mani and if the difference is worth it.
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Old Aug 27, 2006 | 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by TwStDeVo
hopefully i can get my car tuned and running soon, i want to stay with the flash, but looks like im going to have to get the aem. as for the intake mani, im wondering how it would compare to the ams vsr intake mani and if the difference is worth it.
You might want to look into the vpro as an option. I might go that route as it is still emmisions conpliant as it tricks the ecu to think it still has the mafs and is operational....

I wish someone would do an intake mani conparison between the hks/ams/and stock ported....aviously with the use of a bigger turbo...and the flash
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Old Aug 27, 2006 | 11:10 AM
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Very nice results. This is the turbo I'm going with on my "new" setup I look forward to some track #'s

Any chance you might post up the graph(s)?
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Old Aug 27, 2006 | 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by kmcconn9
You might want to look into the vpro as an option. I might go that route as it is still emmisions conpliant as it tricks the ecu to think it still has the mafs and is operational....

I wish someone would do an intake mani conparison between the hks/ams/and stock ported....aviously with the use of a bigger turbo...and the flash
well i dont have emissions requirements where i live, so thats not a concern. my car is at buschur right now, if i went the aem route i would ask david to tune it and then i would need to email a log to him as i would need adjustments for altitude (6500ft).

the ems is the only thing left on my car and i just cant decide which route i want to go, but i definitely want to get rid of the maf as i have seen a couple of threads on here where people had problems once they reached 500+whp.
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Old Aug 27, 2006 | 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by justchil
Very nice results. This is the turbo I'm going with on my "new" setup I look forward to some track #'s

Any chance you might post up the graph(s)?
The graph will be up as soon as I get it scanned and loaded...
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Old Aug 27, 2006 | 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by TwStDeVo
well i dont have emissions requirements where i live, so thats not a concern. my car is at buschur right now, if i went the aem route i would ask david to tune it and then i would need to email a log to him as i would need adjustments for altitude (6500ft).

the ems is the only thing left on my car and i just cant decide which route i want to go, but i definitely want to get rid of the maf as i have seen a couple of threads on here where people had problems once they reached 500+whp.
Yea, then in your case I would go with the aem and have dave tune it...I know I would if I didnt have emmisions...but then again you cant argue with the power of the flash. Although, as you said, it would be nice to turn up the boost and not have to worry about the limitation of the stock mafs and 3" intake..
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