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Old Sep 22, 2009 | 11:05 PM
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^^^^^and that's exactly why Detroit is focused entirely on trucks and SUVs for their flex fuel fleet. Not much incentive to add flex fuel capability to a gas sipping econo car.

There are a bunch of non trucks and SUVs as well, all avail in a FFV model:

Ford Crown Victoria (I see CHP filling up with the E85 pump all the time at our local E85 station)
Ford Fusion
Ford Taurus
Lincoln town Car
Mercury Grand Marquis
Chevy HHR
Chevy Impala
Chevy Monte carlo
Pontiac G6
Buick Lucerne
Chrysler Sebring
Dodge Avenger
Dodge Stratus
Mercedes C230
Mercedes C240
Mercedes C300
Mercedes C320

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Old Sep 23, 2009 | 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by GST Motorsports
There are a bunch of non trucks and SUVs as well, all avail in a FFV model:

Ford Crown Victoria
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Mercedes C320

Correct, but no economy cars.

And the biggest blunder of all is that Detroit is taking NO advantage of the performance increase available with FLEXfuel.

Imagine a FLEXfuel ZR1, or CTC-V, or SC Mustang Cobra, or Turbo Solstice/Sky/Cobalt SS, or SHO/Flex, that really took full advantage of E85.

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Old Sep 23, 2009 | 08:37 PM
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Pontiac G6 and HHR aren't economy cars?
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Old Sep 23, 2009 | 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by GST Motorsports
Pontiac G6 and HHR aren't economy cars?
Not according to Wikipedia

Economy Cars.
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Old Sep 27, 2009 | 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in Tucson

I have not been able to find any documentation of full-scale current US production of ethanol from anything other than corn. There are a few R&D algae bioreactors, but nothing in full-scale production. If anyone has other info, please post.

http://www.treehugger.com/files/2008...eno-nevada.php

Heres a possible new direction for ethonal production.Pretty cool, I found this looking for ethonal in the reno area
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Old Sep 27, 2009 | 09:00 PM
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I hope it goes away, what a terrible gas mileage in the evo!! Let the electrical motor take over!!
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Old Sep 27, 2009 | 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Jer.k
http://www.treehugger.com/files/2008...eno-nevada.php

Heres a possible new direction for ethonal production.Pretty cool, I found this looking for ethonal in the reno area
And another Bluefire Ethanol wins California air permits for landfill to energy plant.

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Old Sep 27, 2009 | 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by fugiwara
I hope it goes away, what a terrible gas mileage in the evo!! Let the electrical motor take over!!
I think this is the site you are looking for EVO Electric.

Thanks for stopping bye.

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Old Sep 27, 2009 | 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in Tucson
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Thanks for stopping bye.

I think he was joking.
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Old Sep 29, 2009 | 12:44 PM
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While flipping through channels I happened upon a lecture about switchgrass as a viable alternative to corn as a energy source, from what the lecturer was saying, if they incorporated legumes into the field the yield was much higher.

The result was that land that was previously unused now served a purpose, no release of carbon through the cultivation of dirt, reduced pestisides, and negilgible use of fuel in order to maintain the crops. The resulting energy-to-carbon emmsion yield is much higher than what corn requires.

It looks promising, but the corn producers have a large stake in the push for this fuel, so it'll be interesting to see if it gets any widescale acceptance.

I wish I could find the video, but here's a link that describes similar:

http://ww2.attra.ncat.org/index.php/switchgrass.html

/yes I'm a dork for watching a college lecture on TV voluntarily.
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