I dont think its a real big deal in my opinion car enthusiast is not the most innportant thing in this world dont miisread that comment,,,, but from another perspective like i stated these reg cost too much money and they take a tole on the state and consumer, people dont realize that all these green ideas cost bunch of money way much more than we realize, and it ends up in the consumers hands, corp neither the gov will pay for it, it goes into the form of taxes ect....

 

The town of Forks (now known for Twilight) was actually deemed illegal at one point because it fell inside a spotted owl protection zone due to environmentalists. Hippies become Ecos but not all Ecos are Hippies.

I come from a logging town and logging community. I am a 5th generation logger (no longer obviously) who understands what sustainable forestry means independent of "they're killing mother earth". Replanting and careful management actually means less forest fires and chance of massive destruction. Old growth gets left alone and half the second growth is large enough within 70 years to be "old growth". Point is if you ask an Eco they will tell that it is all propaganda and lies (interesting reversal really).

Same is true with performance cars. More of what we do has practical impact for better use of the car than the oil/overly rich buring rigs they drive. I am sure we have all seen them in their 1969 VW bus that is emissions exempt that burns more oil than gas and gets half the mileage an Evo does. Who really is the polluter? The guy with 500whp or 50whp? I guarantee that 99% of the time its the 50whp car.

 

I can imagine shops selling race gas out the back door with 50% markups like illegal booze back in the day. Someone is going to get paid from that crazy law.

 

garbage *** lobbyist/ tree-hugging laws. time to re-register my car in one of the midwest states that dont give a FU*K

 

i thought this was already passed that race gas was illegal in Cali? Maybe I misread that it was somewhere.

 

I hope they start opening more e85 stations in orange county,ca as the need is apparent.

 

Didn't obama say he was all about getting e85 more available across the country?

Call Gov Arnold and tell him to you want more e85. ha

 

I cant standing being stationed out here in california because of these laws. Even with Texas License plates i still get harrased by the local law enforcement. I asked a police officer at one point" Why did you stop me" I was going the speed limt minding my own . His reply was that I have an after martket spoiler ( pointing at the stock evo Spoiler) I starrted laughing....

 

100% agree!!!

 

I honestly can't believe there are no E85 stations in Orange County. With all of the money and nice cars here it's baffling. A station in central OC like Irvine would rake in so much money it would set records.

Modding your Evo to run E85 is illegal in CA so even if buying/selling E85 isn't (since it's not "race gas")...you can still get screwed.

 

First, they not making race gas TOTALLY illegal. That are saying its illegal to use it on "street cars". Race gas will still be sold in California, just now with a warning/caution/disclaimer saying that using it in street cars is illegal.


Correct. Running E-85 in a car that didnt come from the factory to run E-85 is illegal.

But I dont think the people that run E85 care....

 

i think E85 hasnt really hit Cali yet unless all the major racing circuits start using it like Formula 1, 24Hours Of LeMans. the level of consistency isnt that great only having a shelf life of 28days after it hits the gas station & since its corrosive the potential few cents a gallon u save over 91 now has to go towards more fuel filters, addl parts that go bad, etc. racegas is more expensive because they have engineered all the bugs out of it making it consistent. it also doesn't eat parts (unless leaded) & it can sit around longer than a month without turning into water...

 

I have never heard of this 28 day shelf life. That's interesting. that must be when stored in a crappy container or some vessle that is open to the atmosphere.

 

That is news to me too. We had stored up to 6 million gallons of ethanol for 4-5 months prior to rail shipments at times and it still met US Spec for e98 at time of shipment. Normally it is shipped immediately however because inventory is just to expensive to hold. Granted- the larger the volume- the less exposure to air. I also would like to point out that in a station (at least all in Wisconsin due to air quality rules) there will be pressure/vacumm vents on each underground tank that will minimize or even eliminate air exchange--only incoming air is to replace product pumped out as levels drop. Personally held under those conditions I would expect the E85 to be good for months. This would not be true of an open container of course or even open vented fuel cells or carbs- that is where care and turnover is needed.