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Old Nov 16, 2006, 08:46 PM
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Is this timing map good?

I created this timing map based on the xede timing that I log. I changed the main cells and those that are adjacent to them. Does it look any good?

The car has a TBE, the AFR is in the low 11:1, a fuel pump and a JDM DV.
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Old Nov 16, 2006, 08:57 PM
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free bump so he doesnt blow his shiit up lol
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agree with 4 wheel slide bump
Old Nov 16, 2006, 09:14 PM
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Don't worry guys, I am not going to flash my car until after I make certain I know what I am doing. Hence the post. Tuning with the xede is much easier than flashing
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seems a bit too advanced at peak torque. for 91 or 93 that might be a little too advanced. just try logging a pull.
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Originally Posted by coolguycooz
seems a bit too advanced at peak torque. for 91 or 93 that might be a little too advanced. just try logging a pull.
3* to -1* is too much at peak torque? The real determining factor is the amount of boost being used at peak torque and the rest of the powerband for that matter.
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Originally Posted by JohnBradley
3* to -1* is too much at peak torque? The real determining factor is the amount of boost being used at peak torque and the rest of the powerband for that matter.
Exactly..the timing map seems ok just need to try and smooth things out a bit, you have a few big jumps here and there.
Old Nov 17, 2006, 05:23 AM
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Can't see de map, motor oil in way,,, joke,
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Nonetheless, amount of timing should be little different car to car, is this for an VIII?
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Originally Posted by JohnBradley
3* to -1* is too much at peak torque? The real determining factor is the amount of boost being used at peak torque and the rest of the powerband for that matter.
Just to add some more info. The boost is set to 22 psi peak and tapers to 19 by redline and the gas is 93-94 octane.
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Originally Posted by mchuang
Exactly..the timing map seems ok just need to try and smooth things out a bit, you have a few big jumps here and there.
Could you point thoe jumps to me on the map so I can fix them?
Old Nov 17, 2006, 08:19 AM
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looks fine to me. I run a bit more timing then that, all over the place, with the same 93 octain and 24psi.
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^totally ditto.
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That boost level and that fuel I have tuned cars to this map:



The car with this map now has cams (GSC 269's) but before that, it ran that midrange timing. All the same listed mods that you have with a 9.8 hotside. He ran 12.6's on pump with no problems and faster at higher boost and some 112.

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i have a quick question, how come you rescaled to 320 rather then 300, do you actually hit load higher then 300 with only 22 psi tapering down? If so is it because of the cams? If not dosent 7* at peak torque seem pretty high?
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Originally Posted by coolguycooz
seems a bit too advanced at peak torque. for 91 or 93 that might be a little too advanced. just try logging a pull.
For 93 octane and 22 psi at peak tq, 5 deg is a good ways away from too much. Regardless, it really matters what his car thinks about the numbers and not what we eyeball on the board.


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