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Old Jul 9, 2008 | 06:59 AM
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ADC Inputs - Which ones can we use and how can we use them

I wanted to make a thread that would list all the ADC inputs that we are able to use and how we can use them.

I have listed the ADC inputs (taken from mrfred) which I think we can take over. If you can help me to make a list of what each input will accept (ex: 0-5v) and what would be a logical usage for that input.

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ADC CHAN          MUT_REQUEST           USDM Evo IX ECU PIN   New Use   
09-1              13 (O2sensor_front)   71                    0-5v           
0A                3C (O2sensor_rear)    73                    WideBand Analog Input (0-5v)           
0C                39 (Fuel Tank MDP)    93                    0-5v           
0E-2              87 (Fuel Temperature) 96                    AIT Temp (Can only read thermisistor sensors)         
0F   (*NOT USED*) 83 (AVAILABLE)        64                    ALT Map Input (0-5v)
This way we can figure out what kind of additional sensors or inputs we can log and each user can determine which sensors are best for their needs. I for one would like to be able to log my Aquamist flow sensor voltage, wideband AFR, and have Alt Maps so I would need to use 3 ADC channels.

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Old Jul 9, 2008 | 07:08 AM
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What is fuel tank MDP?
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Old Jul 9, 2008 | 07:23 AM
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A few comments:

- All the ADC inputs in your list except that fuel temperature ADC are standard 0-5 V ADC inputs.

- The fuel temperature ADC input is set up differently than the other inputs and is only useful for logging a thermisistor type sensor (e.g., a GM air temp sensor or an EGT sensor if its thermisistor type).

- Taking over the fuel tank MDP (fuel tank pressure) ADC input will require disabling the evap OBD-II routines. There is no way to simulate that signal like I've been able to do for other sensors.

- One of the O2 sensor ADC inputs needs to be reading an O2 sensor of some sort.
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Old Jul 9, 2008 | 08:03 AM
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So then I could use the rear 02 sensor input for my wideband, remove both stock 02 sensors. Use the front 02 sensor input for my meth flow sensor. Use the ADC F0 for alt map and use the fuel temp sensor for AIT. And leave the fuel pressure sensor intact untill someone is able to figure out how to disable that test.

If I didn't care about passing emisions I could use the fuel pressure sensor right? I have already removed my EVAP solenoid and the EVAP canister so I already won't pass that test, lol.
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Old Jul 9, 2008 | 08:17 AM
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Yep, everything you said is doable. I'm working on a patch to simulate the front O2 NB signal using a WB signal being fed into the rear O2 ADC input. I keep saying it will be done soon.
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Old Jul 9, 2008 | 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by mrfred
Yep, everything you said is doable. I'm working on a patch to simulate the front O2 NB signal using a WB signal being fed into the rear O2 ADC input. I keep saying it will be done soon.
Would it be specific to a certain WB sensor?
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Old Jul 9, 2008 | 10:09 AM
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Would it be specific to a certain WB sensor?
Nope. It will be universal to all WBs.
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Old Jul 9, 2008 | 10:12 AM
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Nope. It will be universal to all WBs.
Awesome, maybe i could finally use the last wire on my UEGO.
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Old Jul 9, 2008 | 10:20 AM
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Yep, everything you said is doable. I'm working on a patch to simulate the front O2 NB signal using a WB signal being fed into the rear O2 ADC input. I keep saying it will be done soon.
That sounds great as it will improve the accuracy of the afr readings the ECU sees and it will also free up another ADC. Do you think you will look into tricking the ready test for the EVAP system so that we can get yet another ADC input?
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Old Jul 9, 2008 | 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by dudical26
That sounds great as it will improve the accuracy of the afr readings the ECU sees and it will also free up another ADC. Do you think you will look into tricking the ready test for the EVAP system so that we can get yet another ADC input?
Like I said before, there is no way to simulate the fuel tank pressure sensor. Only solution is to disable evap OBD-II.
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Old Jul 9, 2008 | 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by mrfred
Like I said before, there is no way to simulate the fuel tank pressure sensor. Only solution is to disable evap OBD-II.
If you disable EVAP OBD can you still pass emisions?
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Old Jul 9, 2008 | 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by dudical26
If you disable EVAP OBD can you still pass emisions?
Most likely not. Probably depends on the state. you wont in MA.
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Old Feb 11, 2015 | 04:55 AM
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Hi,

I did my research on ADC inputs, very helpful information here on evolutionm but I still have couple of questions:

I've converted my 2G Talon to use EVOVIII ECU so there are several inputs which were not used on Talon as there are simply less sensors. Is above list in OP of the ALL inputs which can be used for external sensors (0-5V) on EVO ECU or just a "inputs we might want to use or free"?

I've already used Rear O2 sensor input for Wideband, planning to use Fuel Tank Pressure input for Fuel Pressure sender (0-100psi sensor with 0-5V output) and I do have MAP sensor installed in place of MDP. So would like to know which ones I still can use for other project bits

Also a question on MUT table- if we are referring an input as ADC_0F, which PIN on the EVOVIII is this? And if I want to log it with EvoScan- do I need to adjust something in the MUT table itself (EcuFlash) or just go and create a log item in EvoScan with "83" and correct formula? I have all EVAP system eliminated and disabled...

I'm using 96530706 Tephramod v7 ROM at the moment.

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Old Feb 15, 2015 | 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by ZyXEL
Also a question on MUT table- if we are referring an input as ADC_0F, which PIN on the EVOVIII is this? And if I want to log it with EvoScan- do I need to adjust something in the MUT table itself (EcuFlash) or just go and create a log item in EvoScan with "83" and correct formula? I have all EVAP system eliminated and disabled...

I'm using 96530706 Tephramod v7 ROM at the moment.


Here are all the ADC assignments for the USDM Evo VIII. I'm using ADC_0F for a flex fuel input. It's pin 64.


Code:
ADC poll subroutine #1
ADC CHAN          MUT_REQUEST           ECU PIN (USDM Evo 8)    r5 RAM ADDR   r6 RAM ADDR
02                10 (Coolant Temp)     83                      FFFF88D4      FFFF88D6
03                3A (Air Temp)         72                      FFFF88E4
0E-1 (*NOT USED*) BD (NOT AVAILABLE)    --                      FFFF9984      FFFF8900
04                8C (Barometer)        85                      FFFF88FE
09-1              13 (O2sensor_front1)  76                      FFFF88EE
0A                3C (O2sensor_rear1)   75                      FFFF8408
07-1 (*NOT USED*) 3E (NOT AVAILABLE)    --                      FFFF88F0
08-1 (*NOT USED*) 3D (NOT AVAILABLE)    --                      FFFF88F4
0B                38 (MAP)              73                      FFFF8416
0C                39 (Fuel Tank MDP)    61                      FFFF8934      FFFF8936
0E-2              87 (Fuel Temperature) 77                      FFFF8938      FFFF893A
0D                88 (Fuel Level)       46                      FFFF8946
08-2 (*NOT USED*) 97 (NOT AVAILABLE)    --                      FFFF894A
0F                83 (Flexfuel)         64                      FFFF8950
ADC poll subroutine #2
ADC CHAN          MUT_REQUEST           ECU PIN (USDM Evo 8)    r5 RAM ADDR
01                14 (BATT_VOLTAGE)     12 (?)                  FFFF890E
05                17 (TPS)              84                      FFFF9176
07-3 (*NOT USED*) NO_MUT (NOT AVAILABLE)--                      FFFF9718
4D                96 (purpose not known)                        FFFF7676      FFFF7678
ADC poll subroutine #3
ADC CHAN          MUT_REQUEST           ECU PIN (USDM Evo 8)    r5 RAM ADDR
06                30 (KNOCK Sensor)     78                      FFFF8930
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Old Jan 9, 2020 | 07:21 AM
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Hey,

I want to use my PLX EGT analogous output signal (0-5v) to put in the ECU. Then I want to log the EGT with evoscan. I already use the rear o2 input. My car uses the evap. I’m also using the fuel temperature for AIT Temp. Which input can I use for my EGT? I‘m using an Evo 8 ECU with tephra v7 96530706
Thanks and best regards

Marcel
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