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Old Jun 7, 2009 | 01:00 PM
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Log boost with Defi Boost sensor

Hello

I've a question for the experts.

I have a Defi Boost sensor mounted in my car. The sensor itself has 3 cables (black,white and red).

I suppose that black is ground, red is current and white is the signal.

Can anyone confirm me that? Is the sensor connected to 12V, or just 5V?

I would like to wire the sensor to the ECU to be able to log boost.

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Old Jun 7, 2009 | 02:21 PM
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Sorry unable to reply to your question but if you haven't searched around much, people usually use the JDM Map 3bar sensor (now basically the stock evo X map sensor) to log boost.

Hope it helps if you're unlucky with the Defi.
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Old Jun 7, 2009 | 02:33 PM
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+1 for jdm over gauge input.
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Old Jun 7, 2009 | 09:57 PM
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sorry the JDM map sensor seems to be the popular choice on this forum. however to answer your question it should be black = ground, red = 5v, and white = signal. from what i have read there should only be a slight difference in reading. i am surprised that the GM sensor isn't used more considering that it is half the cost. guess it is all about ease of install .
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Old Jun 8, 2009 | 01:15 AM
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I would basically also use the GM, nonetheless I had the Defi from another project, so it could be worth using it and not letting it get dust on the shelf


Moreover if I want to use the GM, I have to drill an hole in the manifold, which I don't like too much.

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Old Jun 8, 2009 | 03:20 AM
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how many bar is the sensor (what does the gauge go upto??)

if its 3bar do this:

hook up the power/ground like normal then use a DMM to measure the signal (just at atmo pressure)

if its about 1.5v then its 5v... if its 4-5v then its as 12v...

I suspect it will be 5v... in which case you can just hook up the signal wire to the ECU and it will work ok...
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Old Jun 8, 2009 | 04:44 AM
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Hello Dave

it is actually a 2bar sensor. I'm not sure that this will be enough, but I do not have extreme mods (no FP, no E85)

I'll try like you suggested

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Old Jun 8, 2009 | 04:54 AM
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2bar on the display?

so 3bar atmo

let me know how u go
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Old Jun 8, 2009 | 05:24 AM
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Yes
next weekend I'll wire it into the ECU


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Old Jun 13, 2009 | 06:21 AM
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Hallo Dave

I installed the sensor with the 5V as source

it seems to be working. At idle is giving me 0.7 bar. I'm using the JDM MAP scaling as available in Evoscan-

Thnks for the help

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Old Jun 13, 2009 | 06:25 AM
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So you will need to work out the scaling

So just log the RAW value in EvoScan (ie remove the formula and leave 'x') (rpm=0 of course)

Then report back and ill try and work it out for u
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Old Jun 13, 2009 | 06:48 AM
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Hello Dave

I sent you an E-mail with the logs

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Old Jun 13, 2009 | 07:18 AM
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interesting. 2bar is about 29psi right?

i would like to learn more about this!
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Old Jun 13, 2009 | 08:23 AM
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Yes

btu anyway tephra was right: the sensor is good for 0-3bar (2 bar boost)

As soon as either myself or tephra have the right scaling we'll put it there
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Old Jun 13, 2009 | 09:54 AM
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what did u use as a 5v source?
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