Omni 4 bar MAP sensor ROM compatibility settings for USDM Evo 8/9
I just installed mine this evening, it's pretty dead on.
At boost I show 6.5 psi, gauge shows 6 ish...not an accurate guage though
At idle, evoscan shows -11 psi (also known as 22 in /Hg) and my guage shows 22in/Hg
I noticed a lot of people say vacuum is wrong on theirs, it's just that the map sensor shows starting at absolute 0, and always in PSI, but most boost gauges show in/Hg and then switch to PSI at 0 atmospheric, or 14.7 absolute..
I think...whatever, -11 is the same as your boost gauge showing -22.
At boost I show 6.5 psi, gauge shows 6 ish...not an accurate guage though
At idle, evoscan shows -11 psi (also known as 22 in /Hg) and my guage shows 22in/Hg
I noticed a lot of people say vacuum is wrong on theirs, it's just that the map sensor shows starting at absolute 0, and always in PSI, but most boost gauges show in/Hg and then switch to PSI at 0 atmospheric, or 14.7 absolute..
I think...whatever, -11 is the same as your boost gauge showing -22.
Just did this today.
Do these numbers look right for an Evo IX with only an open air filter and turbo back exhaust?
3rd gear pull from 2-6k rpm (needed more space for the last 1k but didn't have it):
Max boost = 19.18 psi @ 3500 rpm
Tapers to ~ 16.33 psi before lifting
Do these numbers look right for an Evo IX with only an open air filter and turbo back exhaust?
3rd gear pull from 2-6k rpm (needed more space for the last 1k but didn't have it):
Max boost = 19.18 psi @ 3500 rpm
Tapers to ~ 16.33 psi before lifting
Is it okay if i try to change my values to the specified ones but cannot make them exact per ecuflash rounding up or down?
0.51 25
0.90 49
1.29 70
1.68 96
2.07 120
2.46 144
2.85 170
3.24 195
3.63 255
Mine-
0.51 25
0.90 49
1.29 70
1.69 96
2.08 120
2.45 144
2.84 170
3.24 195
3.63 255
0.51 25
0.90 49
1.29 70
1.68 96
2.07 120
2.46 144
2.85 170
3.24 195
3.63 255
Mine-
0.51 25
0.90 49
1.29 70
1.69 96
2.08 120
2.45 144
2.84 170
3.24 195
3.63 255
Is it okay if i try to change my values to the specified ones but cannot make them exact per ecuflash rounding up or down?
0.51 25
0.90 49
1.29 70
1.68 96
2.07 120
2.46 144
2.85 170
3.24 195
3.63 255
Mine-
0.51 25
0.90 49
1.29 70
1.69 96
2.08 120
2.45 144
2.84 170
3.24 195
3.63 255
0.51 25
0.90 49
1.29 70
1.68 96
2.07 120
2.46 144
2.85 170
3.24 195
3.63 255
Mine-
0.51 25
0.90 49
1.29 70
1.69 96
2.08 120
2.45 144
2.84 170
3.24 195
3.63 255
Also, my starting values in the chart were also a bit different from the table in the OP.
Try it out and log and compare to mine if you're running stock boost.
Hey guys, I'm running 96530706 and had been logging boost fine until my motor went boom. I got my car back a week ago and now boost isn't logging. It's stuck at 34.5383. I have the formula right in EvoScan so is there anything else I can check to see what could be going on? I know the symptoms of a bad map sensor (car runs bad, bogs, barely drivable) and my car runs good, my aem gauge works fine, it was tuned using the Zeitronix set-up and worked fine there but mine stopped.
Thanks!
Matt
Thanks!
Matt
Hey guys, I'm running 96530706 and had been logging boost fine until my motor went boom. I got my car back a week ago and now boost isn't logging. It's stuck at 34.5383. I have the formula right in EvoScan so is there anything else I can check to see what could be going on? I know the symptoms of a bad map sensor (car runs bad, bogs, barely drivable) and my car runs good, my aem gauge works fine, it was tuned using the Zeitronix set-up and worked fine there but mine stopped.
Thanks!
Matt
Thanks!
Matt
Thanks for the tip, the wires are wrapped so I need to cut back the wiring to make sure just in case something happened.
If the sensor was bad wouldn't the car run like crap? I've had a sensor go bad and the car wasn't drivable at all.
If the sensor was bad wouldn't the car run like crap? I've had a sensor go bad and the car wasn't drivable at all.
Just wanted to check what the "EGR Pressure Diff" should be set to if running an Omni 4 bar sensor, as it's not really mentioned here.
At the moment my "EGR Pressure Diff" is set to 0.12. Is that correct?
Note that this is on a JDM 7 running 90550701. Thanks!
At the moment my "EGR Pressure Diff" is set to 0.12. Is that correct?
Note that this is on a JDM 7 running 90550701. Thanks!
MFRED,
I came across this thread again when I was double checking for the 1000'th time why MAPsensor settings are not available in the 96530706 ROM.
Either way, just a heads up on the settings for the 94170715 ROM. All other roms you have the Mid VE set to 4.90v from the stock 4.2 or something. With this 94170715 ROM you have them set the MAP Test 1: Mid VE High Voltage Test -- Change from 4.61 volts to 4.80 volts. Curiosity asks if this is a typo, for my readings are still off a bit. I recently changed to 4.90 v and have not gone out and got a reading. Will you double check your results if you have them from 3 years ago, and see if you made a typo on the Mid VE voltage?
Thanks in advance.
I came across this thread again when I was double checking for the 1000'th time why MAPsensor settings are not available in the 96530706 ROM.
Either way, just a heads up on the settings for the 94170715 ROM. All other roms you have the Mid VE set to 4.90v from the stock 4.2 or something. With this 94170715 ROM you have them set the MAP Test 1: Mid VE High Voltage Test -- Change from 4.61 volts to 4.80 volts. Curiosity asks if this is a typo, for my readings are still off a bit. I recently changed to 4.90 v and have not gone out and got a reading. Will you double check your results if you have them from 3 years ago, and see if you made a typo on the Mid VE voltage?
Thanks in advance.
Last edited by Raceghost; Jul 11, 2012 at 03:22 PM.
***UPDATED 2/10/2013 after finding a math error of mine which made MrFreds original formulas correct anyhow***
I will keep this here to avoid further confusion, my bad.
I came across the actual formulas from OMNI the other day and created the actual formulas we should be using for kpa and PSIg:
OMNI 4 BAR MAP KPA
OMNI 4 BAR MAP PSIg
To accurately log PSIg, the formula is:
x*0.23691218-B
where B is the local atmospheric pressure. The local atmospheric pressure is strongly affected by altitude. For example the pressure at sea level is 14.7 psi, but at 5000 ft, the pressure is 12.2 psi. That's a big difference when you want to log boost. Use this table of altitude vs pressure to determine the offset pressure for your formula:
altitude (ft) local atmospheric pressure (psi)
0 14.7
500 14.4
1000 14.2
1500 13.9
2000 13.7
2500 13.4
3000 13.2
3500 12.9
4000 12.7
4500 12.5
5000 12.2
6000 11.8
7000 11.3
8000 10.9
*For example*, if you are living at 750 ft, then you'd want to use 14.3 psi as your offset, and the formula would be
x*0.23691218-14.3
In the following instructions, please use your formula in place of the words FORMULA HERE.
<DataListItem DataLog="N" Color="" Display="OMNI 4 bar PSIg" LogReference="OMNI4barPSIg" RequestID="38" Eval="FORMULA HERE" Unit="kpa" MetricEval="" MetricUnit="" ResponseBytes="1" GaugeMin="0" GaugeMax="43.5" ChartMin="0" ChartMax="43.5" ScalingFactor="1" Notes="" Priority="1" Visible="False" LogHide="false" />
TIP:
I find the best way to find the accurate local atmospheric pressure is to set the B value to the number zero and have the engine ice cold at ambient outside temperature. Turn the key ON but do not start the vehicle. Log the Omni 4 bar PSI in evoscan. Replace the B value with whatever reading you datalogged.
example: If you logged 14.65, replace the zero you placed in the formula with 14.65
Relog the PSI and now it should roughly read 0 PSI.
-Jamie
I will keep this here to avoid further confusion, my bad.
I came across the actual formulas from OMNI the other day and created the actual formulas we should be using for kpa and PSIg:
OMNI 4 BAR MAP KPA
Code:
<DataListItem DataLog="N" Color="" Display="OMNI 4 bar kPA" LogReference="OMNI4barKPA" RequestID="38" Eval=" x*1.63345239" Unit="kpa" MetricEval="" MetricUnit="" ResponseBytes="1" GaugeMin="0" GaugeMax="400" ChartMin="0" ChartMax="400" ScalingFactor="1" Notes="" Priority="1" Visible="False" LogHide="false" />
OMNI 4 BAR MAP PSIg
To accurately log PSIg, the formula is:
x*0.23691218-B
where B is the local atmospheric pressure. The local atmospheric pressure is strongly affected by altitude. For example the pressure at sea level is 14.7 psi, but at 5000 ft, the pressure is 12.2 psi. That's a big difference when you want to log boost. Use this table of altitude vs pressure to determine the offset pressure for your formula:
altitude (ft) local atmospheric pressure (psi)
0 14.7
500 14.4
1000 14.2
1500 13.9
2000 13.7
2500 13.4
3000 13.2
3500 12.9
4000 12.7
4500 12.5
5000 12.2
6000 11.8
7000 11.3
8000 10.9
*For example*, if you are living at 750 ft, then you'd want to use 14.3 psi as your offset, and the formula would be
x*0.23691218-14.3
In the following instructions, please use your formula in place of the words FORMULA HERE.
<DataListItem DataLog="N" Color="" Display="OMNI 4 bar PSIg" LogReference="OMNI4barPSIg" RequestID="38" Eval="FORMULA HERE" Unit="kpa" MetricEval="" MetricUnit="" ResponseBytes="1" GaugeMin="0" GaugeMax="43.5" ChartMin="0" ChartMax="43.5" ScalingFactor="1" Notes="" Priority="1" Visible="False" LogHide="false" />
TIP:
I find the best way to find the accurate local atmospheric pressure is to set the B value to the number zero and have the engine ice cold at ambient outside temperature. Turn the key ON but do not start the vehicle. Log the Omni 4 bar PSI in evoscan. Replace the B value with whatever reading you datalogged.
example: If you logged 14.65, replace the zero you placed in the formula with 14.65
Relog the PSI and now it should roughly read 0 PSI.
-Jamie
Last edited by Dynotech Tuning; Feb 10, 2013 at 02:01 PM.




