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Old Sep 29, 2009 | 09:20 PM
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well i started ****in around with **** and found that my Knock Sensor Filter Map1 was differnt than a map from a 3g. so i copy an pasted the whole map into mine an now im back to only a random 1-2 knock an a 3 knock but not every wot pull. Im running more timing now than that map i posted. I actualy spun the wheels when i went wot at 3k in 3rd! And My clutch is burnt i was think of rescaling load for timing an fuel because i only hit 160 load so ill rescale it for up to 180. Also can i rescale the maf hz? i dont need 16k hz when im peaking at 1250hz.
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Old Sep 29, 2009 | 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by 3gEclipseTurbo
well i started ****in around with **** and found that my Knock Sensor Filter Map1 was differnt than a map from a 3g. so i copy an pasted the whole map into mine an now im back to only a random 1-2 knock an a 3 knock but not every wot pull. Im running more timing now than that map i posted. I actualy spun the wheels when i went wot at 3k in 3rd! And My clutch is burnt i was think of rescaling load for timing an fuel because i only hit 160 load so ill rescale it for up to 180. Also can i rescale the maf hz? i dont need 16k hz when im peaking at 1250hz.
LOL you mean your only logging 160 load. Your seeing more than 160 I gaurantee. Look up the 2byte load mods
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Old Sep 29, 2009 | 11:15 PM
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I have the 2 byte mod, im only running 11psi with a T25 turbo. Will be switch to a 16g when i get a clutch and a couple other things. But back on topic, im reading 160max load and 1250 max hz
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Old Sep 29, 2009 | 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted by 3gEclipseTurbo
I have the 2 byte mod, im only running 11psi with a T25 turbo. Will be switch to a 16g when i get a clutch and a couple other things. But back on topic, im reading 160max load and 1250 max hz
Keep the boost down and only run 11 psi. I have broken the trans 5 times. They won't hold up. When you hit 300whp you'll see and thats with a quaiffe LSD.
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Old Sep 30, 2009 | 10:54 AM
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I have a 50k warrenty on the tranny, i had to replace it 3 weeks after i got it. Im gonna do a evo8 tranny swap. this winter and drop in forged internals. trying to hit 400whp
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Old Sep 30, 2009 | 12:11 PM
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I have a 50k warrenty on the tranny, i had to replace it 3 weeks after i got it. Im gonna do a evo8 tranny swap. this winter and drop in forged internals. trying to hit 400whp
You won't be doing 400 with that head and a 16g I promise.
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Old Sep 30, 2009 | 01:57 PM
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port&polish, 2mm over sized valves, 5 angle valve job, stage 3 RPW cam.
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Old Sep 30, 2009 | 03:18 PM
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LOL you mean your only logging 160 load. Your seeing more than 160 I guarantee.
If you're running a MAF (I assume you are?) then the MAF scaling can greatly affect your peak load values. Maybe you guys can compare MAF scaling's to see if maybe that's where the load error might be happening.
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Old Sep 30, 2009 | 03:53 PM
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Ya im running a 3g maf, suck-through. the honey cone on the inside was taken out
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Old Sep 30, 2009 | 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by 3gEclipseTurbo
port&polish, 2mm over sized valves, 5 angle valve job, stage 3 RPW cam.
still wont do it with a 16g it runs out of breath up top. I had an evo 8 stock turbo on mine and it would hit 19psi by 3k and taper to 15.5 by 6500rpms.
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Old Sep 30, 2009 | 07:06 PM
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still wont do it with a 16g it runs out of breath up top. I had an evo 8 stock turbo on mine and it would hit 19psi by 3k and taper to 15.5 by 6500rpms.
You could probably do it on race gas it will just be a lot more boost and peak horsepower will happen much lower in the rpm range say like 4500rpms. Probably want something like the red to get that airflow for the bigger motor.
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Old Sep 30, 2009 | 07:54 PM
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So how do i rescale the load because i dont need a 260 load colum when im only seeing 160, could i also rescale the rpm because im only turning 6k i dont need up to 11k. I was thinking scaling back the load to 180 for the last colum and 7k rpm for the last colum. Also can i rescale the maf hz table as i only seeing 1250 hz so having it up to 16k is pointless. Ive been searching for the pass hour but can find anything.

Oh an i will open up a build thread when it comes time but here is wats instore:
16g turbo
forged 8.3:1 comp pistons & rods
water/meth injection
act 6 puck hd
3" turbo back
1000cc injectors
either built 4g64 sohc head or a evo8 head swap.

the 16g is untill i do a evo8 tranny swap then i will be getting a pte t56 good for 680hp!

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Old Sep 30, 2009 | 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by 3gEclipseTurbo
So how do i rescale the load because i dont need a 260 load colum when im only seeing 160, could i also rescale the rpm because im only turning 6k i dont need up to 11k. I was thinking scaling back the load to 180 for the last colum and 7k rpm for the last colum. Also can i rescale the maf hz table as i only seeing 1250 hz so having it up to 16k is pointless. Ive been searching for the pass hour but can find anything.

Oh an i will open up a build thread when it comes time but here is wats instore:
16g turbo
forged 8.3:1 comp pistons & rods
water/meth injection
act 6 puck hd
3" turbo back
1000cc injectors
either built 4g64 sohc head or a evo8 head swap.

the 16g is untill i do a evo8 tranny swap then i will be getting a pte t56 good for 680hp!
Regarding Scale:

Sure if you need the resolution go ahead and scale them back to 180. I changed the last rpm section on my car to 8250 since that's pretty close to the rev limit i set at 8k. Just make it a point not to touch the scaling from 0-2500 and the load scaling from 0-60 where alot of extra tables come into play for idle/egr/cold starts/etc. They tend to get buggered when messing with it.


Regarding the MAF:

The default "load units" aren't the same as hz so i wouldn't do that.

Here's a scaling that shows the true HZ line AFAIK I believe it tops out at 1600
<scaling name="AirflowHZ" units="units" toexpr="x/10.24" frexpr="x*10.24" format="%.0f" min="0" max="6400" inc="1" storagetype="uint16" endian="big"/>
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Old Sep 30, 2009 | 11:28 PM
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So i just change the number in the box for the colum or do i have to re-write it somehow?
Just add that scaling code to the ecu defintion right?
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Old Oct 1, 2009 | 02:54 AM
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Originally Posted by 3gEclipseTurbo
So how do i rescale the load because i dont need a 260 load colum when im only seeing 160, could i also rescale the rpm because im only turning 6k i dont need up to 11k. I was thinking scaling back the load to 180 for the last colum and 7k rpm for the last colum. Also can i rescale the maf hz table as i only seeing 1250 hz so having it up to 16k is pointless. Ive been searching for the pass hour but can find anything.

Oh an i will open up a build thread when it comes time but here is wats instore:
16g turbo
forged 8.3:1 comp pistons & rods
water/meth injection
act 6 puck hd
3" turbo back
1000cc injectors
either built 4g64 sohc head or a evo8 head swap.

the 16g is untill i do a evo8 tranny swap then i will be getting a pte t56 good for 680hp!
I basically have all that **** done to mine.

FP Green turbo
Ross racing Pistons 8.5:1
Eagle Rods
Fidanza 3++ Clutch
3 1/4" Exhuast
RC1000s
Evo8 Head with 272's and 1mm oversized valves
Titanium Retainers and upgraded valves springs

Have you added up what it will cost to do those mods? I was the first to do the DOHC swap on a 3g :P
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