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Old Oct 27, 2012, 01:24 AM
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Hey guys I have JDM Evo VII with factory SAS. I'd love some opinions from you guys on its performance etc and if its worth keeping.

At the moment I've got no mods but will in the future and some mods such as Injen Intake don't have an outlet for the SAS pipe.

I've also read on another thread that its not turned on in the ECU and you have to enable it. Is this true?
Old Oct 27, 2012, 07:56 AM
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Stock form and ability is primitive. I should have my modified version up and running soon. What are u after with the car ?

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Old Oct 27, 2012, 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by KStyle

I've also read on another thread that its not turned on in the ECU and you have to enable it. Is this true?
Yes its disabled by default.
Old Oct 27, 2012, 02:51 PM
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Stock form and ability is primitive. I should have my modified version up and running soon. What are u after with the car ?
I'm looking at getting around 250kw at the wheels. How is your modified version going to be different.
Old Oct 27, 2012, 05:55 PM
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my modified version might work. I have seen zero data from anyone stating that the OEM hardware actually increases shaft speed over no hardware at all. Im out to make a big change to that. I hope. Thats the pleasure of trying something new.
Old Oct 28, 2012, 12:30 AM
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my modified version might work. I have seen zero data from anyone stating that the OEM hardware actually increases shaft speed over no hardware at all. Im out to make a big change to that. I hope. Thats the pleasure of trying something new.

Sweet can't wait to see the results! keep us updated
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Sorry if this has already been posted but it made the whole system make sense to me so thought id share.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antilag_system

In the link above check out the paragragh titled INLET BYPASS

To me this sounds like once you activate it in the ECU, it will have a combination of retarded timing and the SAS valve operating to achieve antilag.
When you enable the SAS there must be code in the ECU thats activated with it to ensure excess fuel is let through to the exhaust mani so when the SAS operates it will reach the right Air/Fuel ratio and go bang on the hot mani.

Am i on the right track?

If this is the case then the factory SAS should in theory work like a charm??

EDIT: Reading on another site that on most EVO's tune is quite rich to start with and there should be enough fuel to make a small bang so all you need is the SAS valve to open and you have achieved "Mild" antilag. Only problem being that most people tune their Evo's and the result is not enough unused fuel for the SAS to be effective.

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Old Oct 30, 2012, 04:38 PM
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The theory is well documented in the first 4 pages of this thread. You really should read what claudiumxg has to say, he seems to have a bit of experience in the area Im searching.

I have all the fittings I need for the cold side of the system now. The final aeroquip fitting came in today

Now its just up to the hydraulic shop to embrace my design.

if youre ambitious you can accomplish anything. if youre patient you can see how I attempt it.
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Can someone with experience tell me when the negative timing for normal als actually kicks in?

Is it while the throttle is decreasing?
Is it after the throttle has closed?

I want to create an external map switch that has a light and short spring on it, possibly adjustable some how so that before the throttle is actually closed all the way the transition to alt maps which is a whole lot of negative 20 interpolated horizontally to 250 load ish

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http://www.discounthydraulichose.com...ale_p/9067.htm

Second to last one, found the fitting! Yay I don't have to make one lol
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http://www.dirtyimpreza.com/forums/s...ad.php?t=26205

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Can you hear the bov venting while backfiring? Then you get another shunt when I flip the switch

Need to get this bypass ASAP!
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Sent an inquiry to dsps about fresh air als set ups


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