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Old Jan 15, 2013, 05:37 PM
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this is what im shooting for my SAS system to look like.
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Old Jan 15, 2013, 08:45 PM
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Bam! been looking for a valve like this to apply positive control over my SAS valve.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MAC-4-port-B...sories&vxp=mtr
Old Jan 18, 2013, 11:03 AM
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Made an upper intercooler pipe manifold today, 3 ports for 1/8npt and 1 map sensor.

anyone have a maf sensor pinout?
Old Jan 18, 2013, 11:29 AM
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Rats did you happen to measure the size of the holes in the ex manifold runners? I don't want them larger than necessary since I'm using my stock mani.
Old Jan 18, 2013, 01:26 PM
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i didnt enlarge my holes, but they look no larger than 3/16 probably like 1/8
Old Jan 18, 2013, 02:47 PM
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Are you talking about the banjo holes ?
Old Jan 19, 2013, 08:37 PM
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Ive been tinkering around with this as of lately and I cant get my ECU to inject fuel on overrun.

This is important because I can make the ISCV open enough to give a 3100 rpm idle, so I will be depending on the ECU//ROM to add fueling in this next test. the last test used the TPS to supply the fuel as if you were basicaly just giving it part throttle.

any idea why im not getting fuel now? I was in the past..

If I can use the ISCV + the SAS system in one bangeriffic set up I might just have hit the nail on the head. I believe through ISCV disassembly I can make the idle raise to 3000ish by just pressing the AC button. Note I have no AC in the car..
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Old Jan 20, 2013, 05:33 AM
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Why not stick to kick + SAS rather than ISCV + SAS? ISCV could be tricky to set! A kick could be easily made switchable. Again, you're going for the hard way :}
Old Jan 20, 2013, 10:13 AM
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We discussed this before, types of igni-retard, I found these in a standalone help file, along with a little description about ALS
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Old Jan 20, 2013, 12:03 PM
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You don't think hitting a switch to max the iscv would be simple? I think it's easier than adding a jacked throttle, which we don't have cyclic cool down for unless you sacrifice your launch control .
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Well, you could be right about the ISCV but I never seen it used for ALS in such manner. An electric (magnetic motor) kick is my favorite & is very easy to install & can be switched on/off & it's cheap (around $30). It's used by many tuners for ALS, some tuners use a more complex 'air solenoid' kick, I've seen people use the Mitsubishi SAS solenoid & canister for a throttle kick.

Photo is electric kick (evo)
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Cosworth escort used a bypass iscv I believe.

If I get 3100 out of my iscv isn't that enough?

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Originally Posted by 211ratsbud
Cosworth escort used a bypass iscv I believe.
That's correct. Although particular modifications are needed.
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do you know what ECU's they frequently used in those cars that were rally prepped?
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In street cars stock Weber ECU's are used for proper ALS. You need to fit daughterboard with chip, although.

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