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Old Mar 29, 2010, 08:18 PM
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has anyone gotten this to work successfully
Old May 3, 2010, 02:56 PM
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Old Aug 23, 2010, 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Skylineracer
has anyone gotten this to work successfully
Gotten what to work?
Old Aug 25, 2010, 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by mrfred
Gotten what to work?
The ignition retard limit function.

I haven't had any success with getting it to go further than -10 of timing during testing.
Old Aug 31, 2010, 01:53 PM
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Hello, I tried everything possible and retard timing and tephra xlm 5.1 and 7 and I can not get my timing delay less than -10 degrees.
My stock is 94,170,008 xml. I try to change it to 94170015 with timing retard, and tephra 5.1 and 7. I also tried switching to 9653xxxx with tephra 7 and timing retard, can not get below -10 º

Please I need help, I need minimum -15 º in my evo VIII, stock ecu id 94,170,008
Old Dec 11, 2010, 10:00 AM
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Helpppppp this doesn't work with Tephra v7 for evo 8, for both roms,
Despite putting both variables to -28 as described by MrFred!!!


Any thoughts?
Old Feb 9, 2011, 06:22 PM
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I got this to work on my evo ix somewhat, but i am having some issues, i get the timing to go from 35 down pretty much as defined in my launch timing map but after seeing -12 it shot up to 16 then -11 and finally -15, the map is set to -17 from 5500 to 6500. the limiter is set to 6000 and i see rpms from 5600 to 6600. I am confused why i am seeing positive timing because after and before the -17 cells the next cells are -12 and i have them going to 200 on the load.

(this isn't set as a serious launch map i am just seeing if i can make it work)
Old Mar 3, 2012, 05:33 AM
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Mr Fred!Great work!!I have this rom now(88840017) its EDM evo9 and i want put this 88580714 change the immobilizer hex to(0xFFA).I have a guestion,if i want to activate launce maps i must put the ignition retard limit this xml

<scaling name="IgnTimingECUa" units="deg" toexpr="61-x*90/256" frexpr="(61-x)*256/90" format="%.1f" min="-30" max="50" inc="1" storagetype="uint16" endian="big"/>
<table name="Ignition Retard Limit #1" category="Timing" address="2038" type="1D" level="1" scaling="IgnTimingECUa"/>
<table name="Ignition Retard Limit #2" category="Timing" address="133e" type="1D" level="1" scaling="IgnTimingECUa"/>

as 88840017?

Thank you
Old Aug 23, 2012, 10:57 PM
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I tried it on 96530706 and couldn't get timing below -10.
Old Nov 24, 2012, 08:39 AM
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Having the same problems with 94171715 getting below -10*. Retard limit is set to -28.3. Any help would be appreciated.
Old Jun 14, 2014, 01:24 AM
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BUMP !


I am having difficulty in getting max retard ignition on an EDM EVO7 90550001 .Timing retard limit is set to 188 units.
220 = -16.34
203 = -10.37
188 = -5.09
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Now i simply have to change the number to 203 or i have to add some coding in the xml file ? if so , then what values should i put in that table so that i get pops and flames..

Please guide me through.

Thanks.
Old Jun 14, 2014, 06:42 AM
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set to 255 highlight value hit =,type 255, hit enter .

put neg timing in low load areas say 0 to 30 load 1500 to 6500rpm then edit the als tables
if you have them if not post here and il add xml info for them .

something like this
als vechicle speed 24kmh
temp 50c
trigger rpm 3000 units
load to trigger 100 units
trigger time 2.0 sec
trigger valid time 10 secs
load below 45 units
active time 12 sec
delay air 0.1 sec
delay fuel 0.1 sec
fuel inject time 10 sec
air inj time

2000 - 0
2500 - 0.6
3000 - 1.2
3500 - 2.2
4000 - 2.6
4500 - 2.6
5000 - 2.6
5500 -2.6
6000 - 1.0

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Old Jun 14, 2014, 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by todd6027
set to 255 highlight value hit =,type 255, hit enter .

put neg timing in low load areas say 0 to 30 load 1500 to 6500rpm then edit the als tables
if you have them if not post here and il add xml info for them .

something like this
als vechicle speed 24kmh
temp 50c
trigger rpm 3000 units
load to trigger 100 units
trigger time 2.0 sec
trigger valid time 10 secs
load below 45 units
active time 12 sec
delay air 0.1 sec
delay fuel 0.1 sec
fuel inject time 10 sec
air inj time

2000 - 0
2500 - 0.6
3000 - 1.2
3500 - 2.2
4000 - 2.6
4500 - 2.6
5000 - 2.6
5500 -2.6
6000 - 1.0

There is no ALS table in my rom.

Will this 255 value work ? because i read in a thread that 90550001 rom has max retard set to -5 and for timing lower than this one needs to add a table and edit value in it.

Kindly add some xml info for ALS table as well as max retard timing scaling.
Old Jun 14, 2014, 01:29 PM
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Max retard for all Evo 7 roms is -10, it won't go any lower.
Old Jun 15, 2014, 11:33 AM
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timing retard limit theres only one table in evo7 ecu


<table name="Timing Retard Limit" category="Timing" address="173e" type="1D" level="4" scaling="uint16"/>



als tables below

<table name="ALS minimum vehicle speed to trigger" category="ALS" address="2210" type="1D" level="1" scaling="VehicleSpeed"/>

<table name="ALS minimum coolant temperature to trigger" category="ALS" address="2212" type="1D" level="1" scaling="Temp"/>

<table name="ALS minimum RPM to trigger" category="ALS" address="2214" type="1D" level="1" scaling="RPMStatLimit"/>

<table name="ALS minimum load to trigger" category="ALS" address="2216" type="1D" level="1" scaling="Load16"/>

<table name="ALS minimum time to trigger" category="ALS" address="2218" type="1D" level="1" scaling="TimeSec"/>

<table name="ALS trigger valid time" category="ALS" address="221a" type="1D" level="1" scaling="TimeSec"/>

<table name="ALS Load below which active" category="ALS" address="221c" type="1D" level="1" scaling="Load16"/>

<table name="ALS active time limit" category="ALS" address="221e" type="1D" level="1" scaling="TimeSec"/>

<table name="ALS Delay before air injection" category="ALS" address="2220" type="1D" level="1" scaling="TimeSec"/>

<table name="ALS Delay before fuel injection" category="ALS" address="2222" type="1D" level="1" scaling="TimeSec"/>

<table name="ALS Fuel injector time" category="ALS" address="2224" type="1D" level="1" scaling="TimeSec"/>

<table name="ALS Air injection time" category="ALS" address="49e6" type="2D" level="1" scaling="Timesecbyte">
<table name="RPM" address="569a" type="X Axis" elements="9" scaling="RPM"/>
</table>

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