AMS tests the New Forced Performance HTA37R!
Apr 10, 2008, 09:05 AM
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Fuel and timing were kept within in the same limits on both turbos.
Trust us, we wanted the HTA37R to show more power... it would of been great for our customers to slap on another T3 flanged turbo and make a bunch more power.
This is using the same .63 A/R 5 bolt hotside that we use on our 37R. But before anyone makes an assumption keep in mind the .63 PTE 5 bolt housing is nothing like a Garrett .63 housing. The PTE .63 actually flows closer to a Garrett .82 but with better spool.
Thats the nice thing about this test is that nothing else was changed with the exception of the HTA modifications to the compressor side.
Sorry if I have come off a little brash in this thread, that was not my intention at all. We just want to make sure nobody thinks we have some hidden agenda. We tested this turbo so our big boost 37R customers could have a bolt on turbo to make more power..... This is just how the test turned out.
Eric
Trust us, we wanted the HTA37R to show more power... it would of been great for our customers to slap on another T3 flanged turbo and make a bunch more power.
This is using the same .63 A/R 5 bolt hotside that we use on our 37R. But before anyone makes an assumption keep in mind the .63 PTE 5 bolt housing is nothing like a Garrett .63 housing. The PTE .63 actually flows closer to a Garrett .82 but with better spool.
Thats the nice thing about this test is that nothing else was changed with the exception of the HTA modifications to the compressor side.
Sorry if I have come off a little brash in this thread, that was not my intention at all. We just want to make sure nobody thinks we have some hidden agenda. We tested this turbo so our big boost 37R customers could have a bolt on turbo to make more power..... This is just how the test turned out.
Eric
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Apr 10, 2008, 09:07 AM
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One thing has to be kept in mind. THIS IS NOT A REFLECTION, I REPEAT, NOT A REFLECTION IN ANY WAY on ANY VENDOR....PERIOD. This AMS 37R test and previous tests on the HTA35R were by different tuners using different methods and parameters to achieve their results. This HAS to be considered when trying to arrive at final POTENTIAL whp levels of this turbo. Most tuners could arrive at higher numbers if they chose to, but as Eric said, this test was for as close as possible to the same parameters, 37R to HTA37R. Just thought that was worth saying at this point. Your results may vary.
Eric
Apr 10, 2008, 09:07 AM
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One thing has to be kept in mind. THIS IS NOT A REFLECTION, I REPEAT, NOT A REFLECTION IN ANY WAY on ANY VENDOR....PERIOD. This AMS 37R test and previous tests on the HTA35R were by different tuners using different methods and parameters to achieve their results. This HAS to be considered when trying to arrive at final POTENTIAL whp levels of this turbo. Most tuners could arrive at higher numbers if they chose to, but as Eric said, this test was for as close as possible to the same parameters, 37R to HTA37R. Just thought that was worth saying at this point. Your results may vary.
Apr 10, 2008, 09:09 AM
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Eric, it's understandable that a vendor has to be defensive on the outset. No problems here. I don't think anyone could say that AMS has ANY hidden agenda on their testing. I was just curious of the 'final' logs data, not the initial settings. Kind of like putting a new Intake Manifold on and the AFR's change, so they need to be reset to really see the difference. Didn't know if something on that order occurred or not. Thanks for the test and results.
Apr 10, 2008, 09:11 AM
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Like I had posted in my initial post. If you have an AMS 37R now I dont know if it would be worth the gain but when shopping for a larger turbo from a smaller one. An extra 20 whp for $500 is pretty damn good HP to Dollar ratio. Hell I would take that all day long LOL
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Apr 10, 2008, 09:13 AM
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Like I had posted in my initial post. If you have an AMS 37R now I dont know if it would be worth the gain but when shopping for a larger turbo from a smaller one. An extra 20 whp for $500 is pretty damn good HP to Dollar ratio. Hell I would take that all day long LOL
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Good point.
Apr 10, 2008, 09:14 AM
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Like I had posted in my initial post. If you have an AMS 37R now I dont know if it would be worth the gain but when shopping for a larger turbo from a smaller one. An extra 20 whp for $500 is pretty damn good HP to Dollar ratio. Hell I would take that all day long LOL
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Apr 10, 2008, 09:20 AM
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Is a higher boost level applicable to the hta 37r? also what is the max boost level with the standard 37r? Also are you guys going to do a custom tune with the hta 37r to see if any differences?
Apr 10, 2008, 09:24 AM
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Hence the reason I went with a 37R over a 35R.
a little higher peak power ouput..but higher none the less!
Apr 10, 2008, 09:30 AM
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This is using the same .63 A/R 5 bolt hotside that we use on our 37R
Nice test guys!
Boost ON!
Robert Young
Apr 10, 2008, 09:32 AM
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I get the feeling the reason this compressor wheel didn't perform like the others is due to the compressor wheel's size itself. The HTA compressor wheel seems to be making most of its power gains at higher turbine rpm ranges from its unique polished/ridge designs. I think the bigger wheels hinder this becuase they are spinning at lower rpm's.
Any thoughts?
Comparitive pictures as seen on NASIOC.
Regular wheel:
HAT Wheel:
Any thoughts?
Comparitive pictures as seen on NASIOC.
Regular wheel:
HAT Wheel: